Hi Toon,

I havn't read Bert's book and only take a brief look at his
downloadble code, but probably you can divide the differences into
three categories:

1- Incompatibility - functions that Bert uses have changed over time,
so you need an other function (or procedure) name, calling parameters
and (rarely) an slightly other way to handle a specific feature.

2- 'normal' JAL stuff that is hidden by Bert's starterpack. Pragma's
are one example and the other obvious one are the 'super-includes'
Bert uses - one include gives you a lot (all?) libraries available.

3- new features. Like USB and IDE/FAT interface (and many smaller ones).

What would be usefull is a document describing what you encounter if
you want to port the examples of Bert's book in jallib and on a pic
type not supported by the starterpack. So this will be the issue's
under 1 and 2. The third category - new features (and the details of
each specific device) should be covered the jallib way (html-doc,
examples, blog etc).

If only there was somebody that would create a guide 'from starterpack
to jallib' ;) ;)

(Maybe we can do this together: If you provide me with certain
examples of Bert, I can adapt them to run under jallib and - if
neseccary - explain why I changed things.Then you can create the guide
itself...)

Joep


2009/7/13 phalox <[email protected]>:
>
> Hy there!
>
> Since a couple of days I'm having a functional pic programmer (you
> should ask Joep all about it :-D). It was a long and difficult road to
> get to this point, but here I am!
>
> This question may sound strange, but I'm looking for the main
> differences between JALlib and the Libraries used in the book 'pic
> microcontrollers' from Bert Van Dam. This not only for me, but for all
> the other starters that want to make the step to a more extended
> library!
>
> I've read this book to get somewhat of an initiation to JAL, and my
> interest in it has grown since then. Finally some opensource language
> to do the trick!
>
> I'll try to note here my remarks:
>
> * The includes are definitely different.
> * I suppose the delay() library is included within the other 'Bert-
> libraries'
> * Where are the Pragma's ? They're never discussed in the book? Until
> Joep told me what they were, I had no idea!
> * enable_digital_io() is not used either (included in the target pic
> library ?)
> * The delay() library is completely different, for example you don't
> have a delay_1s() anymore
>
> Are there any other major differences ? And is there any way to help
> make a startersguide for newbies (English and Dutch).
> I was looking at the arduino.cc site, and noticed that their
> 'learning' section is really good! Off coarse, in this case it get's
> somewhat harder to provide a guide for - let's say - >200 µC.
>
> I'm just wondering how to get JAL to the 'getting starters'
>
> Kind regards
> Toon
>
> >
>

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