Hi Wayne,
> > The intent to create a 'useful' set of libraries, with "Documentation" > to support them, seems to been replaced by new goals. Jaluino libs, > starter pack workarounds, etc. No replacement here. We'll keep producing libs and docs. For instance, next big piece is about ADC libraries being refactored. A post on jalliblog is being prepared, explaining some new aspects on this lib. As for Jaluino, you probably know by reading this group that this is a project I want to setup for quite a long time, long before this discussion. It's not a new goal for jallib, it's a new project, based on jallib (like USB board and LCD interface). I strongly believe in the benefits of sharing hardware knowledge, as we've been able to do with jallib for the software part (remember, there were no common place to share code, no centralized libs & samples, before jallib). In the current context of this discussion, about making things easier, having a Jaluino project really could help too. Educational benefits, but far more ! One reason Arduino is so popular is because it's plug and play. Everyone can have fun with it. Why ? Because it's easy to use, well documented, but, most importantly, bullet n°1 top priority: they don't have to deal with hardware problems ! And as far as I'm concerned, facing hardware problems is not a piece of cake, particularly when you know very few. As for starterpack workaround, there's been a lot said, and my opinion on this is becoming clearer. For me, there's no starterpack workaround. I don't believe in a migration/conversion guide, because there are legal issues. Period. That said, I understand there's a clear need to make jallib easier to use. Will I ignore this ? I just can't, and want to provide options. What can we do ? How far can/should we go to make jallib easier to use ? They may not provide something as easy as expected (all things being defaulted), but through an elegant and well thought compromise (:)), I'm sure we can do better. And without sacrificing its power and flexibility. > Back when Eur was active on this project, documentation was a very high > priority, as it should still be. And it's still the case ! I do my best to post things on jalliblog, as easy (and hopefully fun) as possible to read. With photos, schematics, videos, so people can know how it looks like for real. I regularly invite people to contribute. Everybody can contribute. > I personally, as a jalV2 newbie, am > still trying to 'understand' how to use jalV2 productively and have have > read everything I can find to assist me. I want to contribute but am > still not sure of my ability to do so. I started programming back in > 1975 on a PDP8. I am not new to programming, just having a problem > doing it in Jal. When I say everybody can contribute to the documentation, to the knowledge, I mean it, *everybody*. Being a newbie or not. As a newbie (so you say), what did you learn today ? Did you experiment something interesting ? Did you use that "count" instruction for the first time, for instance ? Did you have problems ? What tips & trick were you able to identify ? And you want to keep all of this for yourself ? Don't you want to share it ? Do you think it doesn't worth it, because after all you're a newbie and everybody already knows what you know ? Well, I'll be glad to read you, really, because I'm sure I'll learn things, and it'll give me ideas. And, you probably know it, the benefits of writing are huge, you must clear any doubts. That's why it's long, that's why it can sometime be hard, and that's why you can finally get a lot of benefits from this activity. But this is a bit off topic... Still, everybody can contribute on this aspect :) Cheers, Seb -- Sébastien Lelong http://www.sirloon.net http://sirbot.org --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "jallib" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jallib?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
