Hi Rob, hi guys,

>
> You didn't react on my argument for a PC program. I admit when I heard
> about bootloaders for the first time I had the impression these were
> self-supporting, but in fact these things require a dedicated support
> program to work.
>

> So what you want sounds as re-inventing the wheel. Tiny Bootloader would
> fit here nicely.
>

I agree 100%. I've always used Tiny, and never had any problem (except when
I forget long-start option...). Bootloader never gets overwritten. I've
compiled a version for Jaluino, it works perfectly.

About PC program, do you think, Rob, it would be possible to "re-activate"
the application you wrote for Tiny ? I'd like a cross-platform program I
could integrate with a complete IDE, for Jaluino. I tried Tinybld in python,
it works, but Reset-via-RTS behavior is kind of erratic in last version. I
would need to fix few things, but I wonder if it wouldn't be easier to start
from your app to get a clean, cross-platform version. It may be too early
related to Jaluino development, as I still don't know which IDE would fit
the best...

Cheers,
Seb




>
>
> > I'm not sure of the price of the Jaluino board, but if a programmer
> > was not required for it, a lot more people would be interested.
>
> That may be true.
> In fact that is a situation comparable to where I use a bootloader in
> one of my projects. I want to be able to let a PIC program be replaced
> by anyone, without the need for a PIC programmer, only a cable and a
> piece of PC software (the bootloader support program).
>
>
> > I wish I could get a PIC like PIC18F97J60 with a bootloader, I see no
> > programmers around that can program a PIC like this but if someone was
> > able to put a bootloader on it for me I might buy it.
>
> Chicken and egg problem: no programmer which can load the bootloader
> then no need for a bootloader.
>
> > I would not care
> > how large the bootloader is on a huge PIC like this. This is the kind
> > of PIC I would love to see on development boards.
>
> Agreed.
>
>
> > I tried to compile tiny bootloader with the current version of MPLAB
> > and it didn't compile. I am assuming it needs MPLAB 6, but I can't
> > find it anyways.
>
> GPASM of the GPutils package works fine for me.
>
> > A jalv2 bootloader would have it's advantages.
>
> Depends what how you define a 'JalV2 bootloader' exactly.  When you get
> to know more about bootloaders your opinion may change.
>
> Regards, Rob.
>
> --
> Rob Hamerling, Vianen, NL (http://www.robh.nl/)
>
> --
>
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "jallib" group.
> To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> [email protected]<jallib%[email protected]>
> .
> For more options, visit this group at
> http://groups.google.com/group/jallib?hl=en.
>
>
>


-- 
Sébastien Lelong
http://www.sirloon.net
http://sirbot.org

--

You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"jallib" group.
To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
[email protected].
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/jallib?hl=en.


Reply via email to