>Regarding the tutorial.  I have been meaning to ask if the picture that
>starts the "Getting Started" section could/should be made readable.  If
>it can, it might be informative if the pic could be identified.  As it
>is now it is just confusing, to me at least.  It adds nothing to the
>content of that section.

I can change it to something else, maybe a pile of chips or something.
That section didn't have any images at the beginning, so I wanted to
have something there.

I guess splitting the samples directory doesn't help too much, however
maybe the blink samples could go somewhere else. I like the database/
search idea.

Maybe a small program could be put in the jallib-pack that could
display or search the sample files. On the website would will nice but
it will take us some time.

I bet there are samples & libs that I have not seen that I may be
interested in, but just haven't noticed them.

Matt.

On Dec 6, 7:58 pm, Wayne <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sebastien Lelong wrote:
>
> >> I do recall the Rob asked that we start testing with that version some
> >> weeks ago.
>
> > Right, buildbot uses 2.4m beta for its regular builds. Some of us
> > exclusively uses 2.4m-beta.
>
> I would use it as well but don't know how to get it.
>
>
>
> >> IIRC you were trying to get in into the latest bee  version
> >> around the beginning of November.  I had the impression that we should
> >> test it at assist Kyle. but I may be mistaken.
>
> > Bee packages looks like final packages, and don't include beta compiler
> > (that's what I think it should). Helping Kyle can be done without bee
> > package :)
>
> OK, I guess I am out of line here.  Just going by what I read on this
> list.  Guess I must have been wrong again.
>
>
>
> >> If you can't or don't want to include it it's OK with me.  I don'r know
> >> how or when Kyle will release it if no one helps test it though.
>
> > Again, helping Kyle can be done without bee. Or do I miss something ?
>
> I guess it's me that is confused by past posts.
>
>
>
> >> Don't mind me, I'm just a fly on the wall wanna be contributor to this
> >> project.
>
> >> I have another request while I'm able.  Would it be possible to put in a
> >> section of the Web page for users to ask questions of the Experts?  I
> >> think it would be a good source for the FAQ section.  The current FAQ
> >> page seems to be entice people to switch to JALv2, but is little help to
> >> someone who has switched and wants to advance.   JMHO
>
> > Nice idea ! How do imagine this can be done ? Question on mailling list,
> > with different answers, that could be synthetized on website as a kind-of
> > FAQ ?
>
> That would be one way that would work.  It would require a JalLib group
> post to here and the JalList to get it going.
>
> Another would be a section added to the web page for questions from
> users to ask questions.  As I don't know anything about drupal though, I
> don't know if that is possible or not.
>
> Regarding the tutorial.  I have been meaning to ask if the picture that
> starts the "Getting Started" section could/should be made readable.  If
> it can, it might be informative if the pic could be identified.  As it
> is now it is just confusing, to me at least.  It adds nothing to the
> content of that section.
>
> Sorry to have bothered you again.  I'll get back to reading the list and
> trying to progress to the next stage.
>
> Regards
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
>
>
> > Cheers,
> > Seb
>
> >>>>> 2009/12/6 Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]>
>
> >>>>>> Hi guys,
>
> >>>>>> Once upon a time samples were split by device. I was quite happy with
> >>>> this
> >>>>>> structure, because I could access all samples available for a given
> >>>> target.
> >>>>>> Then samples were all put into a single directory. And even if there
> >>>> were a
> >>>>>> lot of files, this flat structure was something easy to use (search
> >> for
> >>>> a
> >>>>>> sample not available for your PIC, using a feature, just to get some
> >>>> example
> >>>>>> code, ...). I now like this structure.
>
> >>>>>> So, I agree with Rob, current structure does the trick, and splitting
> >> it
> >>>>>> isn't that easy. Since one sample can use multiple libraries, it can
> >> be
> >>>> that
> >>>>>> simply flat. Splitting by family is like splitting by device, you may
> >>>> get
> >>>>>> lots of file in PIC16, and not much in PIC10.
>
> >>>>>> Splitting samples should bring a functionality other than "there are
> >>>> less
> >>>>>> files into a single directory". Jallib API doc (jalapi), for each
> >>>> library,
> >>>>>> provides samples using it. This is an interesting entry point. Since
> >>>> going
> >>>>>> from samples to libraries isn't that flat, maybe we can go further and
> >>>> start
> >>>>>> to build a database, queried from our website ("I want some samples
> >>>> using
> >>>>>> SPI library, whatever the PIC, or using 16F886, or using a PIC in
> >> PIC16
> >>>>>> family, or using a PIC closed to mine, that is in the same datasheet,
> >> or
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> same datasheet as PIC X, Y, Z, ......)
>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> Seb
>
> >>>>>> 2009/12/6 Sunish Issac <[email protected]>
>
> >>>>>> Yes Rob. I was thinking of splitting the sample folder, not the
> >>>> lib/include
> >>>>>>> files.
> >>>>>>> I had not thought about sample files using multiple libraries.
>
> >>>>>>> If no other split is possible, may be we can atleast split by
> >>>> PIC10,12,16
> >>>>>>> and 18 families.
>
> >>>>>>> Sunish
>
> >>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Rob Hamerling <
> >> [email protected]
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hi
>
> >>>>>>>> Sunish Issac wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> With the release of so many samples, looks like its time to split
> >> the
> >>>>>>>>> samples folder. Spliting by sample type would be more sensible than
> >>>> by
> >>>>>>>>> PIC name. IIRC there was discussion about this before.
> >>>>>>>> Yes, the collection has happily grown, and finding the right sample
> >>>>>>>> maybe some work. But is that so bad? It's nothing compared to the
> >>>> effort
> >>>>>>>> to build and provide this collection, and for free.  You must not
> >> look
> >>>> a
> >>>>>>>> gift horse in the mouth!
>
> >>>>>>>> Specify your criterium for splitting of the sample directory. Number
> >>>> of
> >>>>>>>> files, other? It may already help to split off the blink samples,
> >>>> these
> >>>>>>>> use no libraries at all.
> >>>>>>>> Splitting by type (I suppose you mean used library) is not so
> >> straight
> >>>>>>>> forward since many samples use more than one library. So be more
> >>>>>>>> specific with your suggestion.
>
> >>>>>>>> About splitting the include library: Device files might be put in a
> >>>>>>>> separate directory, which would require one extra directory in the
> >>>>>>>> include pathspec. But in my view there is even less reason to split,
> >>>>>>>> because users have hardly any reason to look in a library.
>
> >>>>>>>> Regards, Rob.
>
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