Allessandro,

Sure... HTMLConverter *would* be dead if they'd make Netscape 4.7x
handle just the APPLET tag too.  I've tried IE & Netscape 6 (several
versions of each) as well as Mozilla & Opera.  For my own personal
preference Netscape 4.7x is far better than any of the other browser
options.  Unfortunately it still has one huge drawback (poor support of
Java Plug-ins).

- John Wright
Starfire Research

Alessandro borges wrote:
>
> Hi all
>  As far as I know HTMLConverter is DEAD.
>  After the release of JRE "Plug-In" 1.3._01  a
> optional browser support appears (for IE and Netscape
> 6.x since Opera and others already use the installed
> Java Plug-In) and directly reads the <APPLET>
> statement. So we don't need the unreadble and "hand
> unwritable" <objects> and others stats.
>
> I have a sugestion:
> * If you just need Java 1.1 compliance, I think there
> is no reason to NOT use  the default IE/Netscape VM.
> *And if need, lets use the easiest way :
> the old and good <APPLET> statement and  a message and
> link to Sun's getJavaPlug-in page incase of error. If
> the visitor don't have a Java Plug-in installed he/she
> can decide to install it or not.
>
> --- John Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: >
> Justin,
> >
> > It's a regular problem I've seen over and over -
> > applets tend to want
> > whichever version of HTMLConverter was used to
> > create the webpage - even
> > if it is a lower version than what the person has
> > installed.
> >
> > I still feel that "distribution" is the WORST
> > problem of Java.  It's a
> > nightmare to support anything other than a closed
> > environment.  Java is
> > fine for internal use in a customer where I can
> > update and control which
> > version of Java is installed on every PC, but for
> > mass distribution?
> > Scary!!!
> >
> > - John Wright
> > Starfire Research
> >
> > Justin Couch wrote:
> > >
> > > Alessandro Borges wrote:
> > > >  Why  the page
> > http://code.j3d.org/examples/terrain/applet.html
> > insist to
> > > > install the old JRE 1.2.2 even when I have JRE
> > 1.3.+   ???
> > >
> > > That's odd. I've got another email complaining
> > that it requires 1.3 and
> > > won't accept 1.4.....
> > >
> > > No idea what's going on, probably something to do
> > your plugin setup as
> > > the page explicitly says 1.3.x
> > >
> > > <OBJECT
> > classid="clsid:CAFEEFAC-0013-0001-0000-ABCDEFFEDCBA"
> > > WIDTH = "600" HEIGHT = "400"
> > >
> >
> 
>codebase="http://java.sun.com/products/plugin/1.3.1/jinstall-131-win32.cab#Version=1,3,1,0";>
> > > <PARAM NAME = CODE VALUE = "FractalTerrainApplet"
> > >
> > > <PARAM NAME = ARCHIVE VALUE = "j3d-org.jar" >
> > >
> > > <PARAM NAME="type"
> > VALUE="application/x-java-applet;version=1.3">
> > > <PARAM NAME="scriptable" VALUE="false">
> > > <COMMENT>
> > > <EMBED
> > type="application/x-java-applet;version=1.3"
> > >    CODE = "FractalTerrainApplet"
> > >    ARCHIVE = "j3d-org.jar"
> > >    WIDTH = "600" HEIGHT = "400"
> > >    scriptable=false
> > >
> > >
> >
> pluginspage="http://java.sun.com/products/plugin/1.3.1/plugin-install.html";>
> > > <NOEMBED>
> > >
> > > Anyway, that will be a non-issue shortly. I have a
> > flight to the US
> > > tomorrow and I'm hoping I can spend a lot of that
> > time reworking all the
> > > j3d.org pages to use CSS and turn this all back to
> > regular <APPLET> tags
> > > and the new JavaPlugin.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Justin Couch
> > http://www.vlc.com.au/~justin/
> > > Java Architect & Bit Twiddler
> > http://www.yumetech.com/
> > > Author, Java 3D FAQ Maintainer
> > http://www.j3d.org/
> > >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > "Humanism is dead. Animals think, feel; so do
> > machines now.
> > > Neither man nor woman is the measure of all
> > things. Every organism
> > > processes data according to its domain, its
> > environment; you, with
> > > all your brains, would be useless in a mouse's
> > universe..."
> > >                                                -
> > Greg Bear, Slant
> > >
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