Open source all the way... Preferably on SourceForge...
Please don't turn it into MySQL... (one company controlling it and charging for commercial license) I work on an Army simulation project and we use Java 3D for all our internal 3D computations. We are a analytical simulation, so we don't do 3D graphics, but we DO use all the points/vectors, bounds, and transformations. > -----Original Message----- > From: Justin Couch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 6:35 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [JAVA3D] What do you want/need from Java3D? > > > As many of you know, I've been involved with Java3D for a very long > period of time. This has given me, and consequently my company (we' a > small contracting shop) access to many different people within Sun. > Right now, we find ourselves in an interesting position with > regards to > the whole Java and 3D graphics community. There will be more > announcements and so forth over the next week or two, but now I have a > specific request of the Java3D community to provide us with feedback, > that we can then pass on, and hopefully help make a difference. > > > Let's start with the assumption that Sun is no longer, and > will never be > supporting Java3D. There is a body of code lying dormant inside Sun. > Now, look to the future. > > What I am seeking is as many responses as possible from everyone here, > either private or public about what your future holds either > definitely > or as a wish list, with respect to Java3D. Both positive and negative > comments are encouraged. I specifically looking for answers > on what you > would prefer to happen. Here are some different responses that I'm > thinking people could give: > > - Java3D is not useful in any way to my projects. I've left it for > something else (eg Xith3D or LWJGL because you are gaming oriented). > Better off to leave it to wither on the vine. > > - It's a good thing and I use it in many of my projects. If > someone was > out there actively supporting it, we would continue to use it. I don't > really care what the codebase is doing, so long as it is > actively being > developed. > > - Chunks of Java3D are of particular interest to me. It would > be really > good if I could have parts X, Y and Z were released as open source. > > - I'd like Java3D to be completely open sourced so that I can take it > and support/develop it myself. I'm not really interested in long term > someone else support, but with the source code available, my own > projects can continue to move forward. > > - I'd like Java3D to be completely open sourced, but really I want > someone to be a steward of the codebase to make sure that there is a > central "reference" implementation to work with. > Alternatively, we could > pay someone else to do the maintenance on it. I'd like to > recommend that > you consider ABC Company/Consortium be given the code to work with. > > - If I had access to the source, I'd like to help develop it further > along the direction of product market LMN (eg CAD-specific or SciViz). > > - It's of mild interest to me. I was planning on moving off it, but if > it was open sourced, then we would hang around and continue to use it. > > - Having the code there as a reference would be really useful to me. I > already have plans to build my own scene graph/rendering engine, and > don't really plan to use Java3D code directly, but knowing some of the > design decisions would be really handy. > > > I'd appreciate it if in your response you could give some small > background of the type of projects you are using it for. For > example - a > university, so it is being used as a teach tool or > visualisation engine > for experimentation. > > Note that myself and Yumetech are not wanting to use this > information to > market to you or anything like that. We're in a position to provide a > case to Sun about what to do with their code. We're basically going to > package up the replies, put a summary on it about the general mood > expressed and then chat about the results with the > appropriate people in > Sun. Sun is a big an varied company, with not all parts > marching to the > same tune. They're interesting in working out what the > current business > cases are surrounding Java3D. They are certainly not even remotely > considering Sun putting any engineering resources into > continuing Java3D > development, but they are looking at whether it is worthwhile helping > others to do so. We're certainly not looking for a specific response > like "please open source it" - if the majority of people > really couldn't > care less about Java3D, then we'll pass that along too. > > Please feel free to pass this message along to anyone that > you feel may > want to respond - particularly if you know of people that have already > moved away from Java3D and are no longer on this list. I'll be posting > this to the javagaming site later this evening. > > -- > Justin Couch http://www.vlc.com.au/~justin/ > Java Architect & Bit Twiddler http://www.yumetech.com/ > Author, Java 3D FAQ Maintainer http://www.j3d.org/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Humanism is dead. Animals think, feel; so do machines now. > Neither man nor woman is the measure of all things. Every organism > processes data according to its domain, its environment; you, with > all your brains, would be useless in a mouse's universe..." > - Greg Bear, Slant > ------------------------------------------------------------------- =========================================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JAVA3D-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".