I think this would be a better first move for 3d graphics support.  I
think more people would be able to make use of this in a shorter time
frame than java3D.  As well, because it is likely that this API would be
more stable than Java3D (not saying Java3D is unstable)... people might
perceive it more positively.

Heres an idea... Release the OGL bindings in the short term... then in a
year or so... release Java3D as a layer on top of the OGL bindings...
rather than a stand alone package....  This way a sort of roadmap is
followed, and people can see where 3D on java is going.

Anyways... i just feel that in general many MANY more people would love
to play with OpenGL... especially on Java....  and then the appeal for
Java3D will follow suit...

ian


William Denniss wrote:

JSR 231 (http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=231) support in the core
would be nice.

Will.

On 15/10/2004, at 7:03 AM, Pondrom, Pierre L wrote:

    I agree because that would fix the problem I am currently having.
    It has taken me years to get my department to try it.
    There is a 2D library, why not a 3D library.  It should at least
    be an option in the deployment.

    On the hand, is it is stable enough.  Should you burden downloads
    to people that don't need it.  Will it someday be replaced with
    something better?  Then it will be like AWT is to Swing :- )
    -----Original Message-----
    *From:* Alessandro Borges [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    *Sent:* Thursday, October 14, 2004 3:32 PM
    *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    *Subject:* [JAVA3D] Java 6.0 - Time for 3D support ?


Java 5 is out. The next release codenamed Mustang is the on the way.

     I think is time to ask for native 3D  support in the JRE without
    extra downloads. The last Java3D builds are less than 1.5mb size.
    JOGL is another small one candidate API .

    Some points against are :
    •  the 3D API to be include in the JRE must be stable enough,
    • usually the release cycle of  a 3D API is shorter than full JRE;

    But native 3D support is a MUST have feature for Java 6.0. Did you
    agree ?

    Alessandro



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