Just my 0.2 cent: I don't think they should include 3D into the standart JRE. 3 reasons:
1. The JRE is big enough, even without 3D-libs. Remember: in europe some people (like me) still have to use 56k-modems (because some telco doesn't support ADSL in rural regions) 2. Having 3D-support in the JRE means all systems/platforms must have 3D for a correct and full installation of Java. That's a no-go on most server-platforms and a problem on nearly all windows versions with shity OpenGL-Support. You don't want to use the everchanging DirectX for such a long-turn-strategie. 3. All 3-party-JVM's would need 3D-support as well. I just can't see IBM including native 3D-libs into their JVM. It doesn't make sense for them. You don't need 3D on a AIX-JSP-Web-server. Some of these don't even have a f***ing graphicscard. I think a _working_ webstart-based system is better. Just put the native libs and the java-part for all platforms (including Mac) on a server managed/hostet/organised by sun. Don't change the link, don't change the server, don't delete old versions. And while we are at it: put all other "addons" for java on the same central server. That way Joey Normal only has to click on the webstart-icon and wait a bit. Or include the webstart download-on-demand feature into the JRE, so it can be called from java-code. Something like: System.installAddon(String AddonName, String AddonVersion) would be def. cool (and help me a lot with my current projects/problems) (i'm not 100% up-to-date on JSDK 1.5, is webstart still included and installed ?) cu =========================================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JAVA3D-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".