Just my 0.2 cent:

I don't think they should include 3D into the standart JRE. 3 reasons:

1. The JRE is big enough, even without 3D-libs. Remember: in europe some
people (like me) still have to use 56k-modems (because some telco doesn't
support ADSL in rural regions)

2. Having 3D-support in the JRE means all systems/platforms must have 3D for a
correct and full installation of Java. That's a no-go on most
server-platforms and a problem on nearly all windows versions with shity
OpenGL-Support. You don't want to use the everchanging DirectX for such a
long-turn-strategie.

3. All 3-party-JVM's would need 3D-support as well. I just can't see IBM
including native 3D-libs into their JVM. It doesn't make sense for them. You
don't need 3D on a AIX-JSP-Web-server. Some of these don't even have a
f***ing graphicscard.


I think a _working_ webstart-based system is better.

Just put the native libs and the java-part for all platforms (including Mac)
on a server managed/hostet/organised by sun. Don't change the link, don't
change the server, don't delete old versions. And while we are at it: put all
other "addons" for java on the same central server. That way Joey Normal only
has to click on the webstart-icon and wait a bit.

Or include the webstart download-on-demand feature into the JRE, so it can be
called from java-code. Something like: System.installAddon(String AddonName,
String AddonVersion) would be def. cool (and help me a lot with my current
projects/problems)

(i'm not 100% up-to-date on JSDK 1.5, is webstart still included and
installed ?)

cu

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