I've only ever seen one person I know use two-way-video messaging on his
phone, we were out for dinner with friends and he gets a video call from a
friend who was in some nightclub.

The video showed 90% blackness and 5% strobe lightening, the audio comprised
of badly distorted music and some two guys yelling at each other.
Annoyingly, one of those guys yelling was sitting next to me at the dinner
table :(

It was at that point I thought the technology rather overrated :)

...and then Buffy staked Edward.  The End.


On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> Hey Peter, Michael:
>
> I apologize, I should have been more specific. I meant: video call -on
> a mobile phone-. I make video calls routinely when I'm behind my desk.
> But when I'm using a mobile phone (which presumes that I'm not already
> seated behind a computer and therefore probably on the move, busy, or
> distracted): Never even had the slightest itch for it.
>
> As far as video calling for kitchens and the like - the idea being
> that you can chat while busily preparing something: Sure, but, it's
> not going to be with a mobile phone, because you'd have to put it on a
> stand. Perhaps 1984-esque tv/camera combo screens all around the
> house, with a central computer system that figures out where you are
> and routes your (video)calls to the right screen/camera device. That
> seems more likely to me.
>
> As for voice quality: I had that exact same idea a while back. Why do
> iPhones and android phones still use a crappy outdated algorithm? If
> they packed-switched the voice data using a modern algorithm that can
> rely on a far better CPU, then the voice quality could triple without
> using more bandwidth. Let alone that bandwidth isn't nearly as big an
> issue these days. Unfortunately the GSM standard doesn't really allow
> that kind of flexibility. I don't know if continuous streams of
> packets across the 3G are more demanding for a cell tower than a
> standard GSM voice block. If they are, that would certainly be a
> roadblock. Perhaps the phones can encode a better quality audio INTO
> the gsm voice stream. That'd be an awesome hack. When the call is
> routed, your phones will beep at each other to realize they both speak
> this protocol, and then, -bing-, your voice quality just improves
> markedly on the spot. Would be a nice sell for either the iPhone or
> android phones: Convince your friend to buy this phone too - your
> calls will sound soo much better!
>
> On Jan 30, 11:53 pm, Peter Becker <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
> >
> > [...]> Video calling has been available for years and I haven't ever, -
> > > ever-, seen anyone do it. Care to name an exception? Are you video
> > > calling?
> >
> > I have to out myself: I do. Admittedly I'm only using MSN/Skype/etc on a
> > computer and it all started with grandparents watching a baby/toddler on
> > the other side of the world, but I have also used it with my friends
> > that I rarely see in real life since we are all modern nomads.
> >
> > It's not going to replace normal phone call, though (at least not for
> > me). My mobile phone doesn't have the second camera and I don't care.
> > Webcam into the room or on top of my netbook is convenient and I can
> > certainly see someone setting up a videoconferencing configuration in
> > their kitchen in the near future. Maybe then it becomes interesting to
> > video-call in from a mobile, but I personally don't see myself running
> > around with my mobile phone held up in front of me.
> >
> >   Peter
> >
>

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