I agree. We can return to the less controversial topic of which is the  
one true IDE. :)
On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:19 AM, Steven Herod wrote:

>
> Okay, I made light reference to it before - but I'll be more direct.
>
> How about we call it a draw and you guys take this conversation off
> list?
>
> On Apr 30, 10:04 pm, Fabrizio Giudici <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> remco wrote:
>>> Your post looks to much like rhetoric than like argument to me.
>>> Come on good people and bad people. Are you telling fairy-tails to
>>> kids?
>>
>> No, I am only telling people a simple fact that holds true since some
>> thousands years and will hold true for all the remaining thousands.  
>> If
>> you wish, I'll make you talk with a friend of mine who saved his  
>> child
>> thanks to his gun during a night robbery in his house, to see whether
>> the distinction between he's being good and the robber being evil is
>> bullshit.
>>
>>> And for a matter of fact In Europe where gun ownership is more
>>> restricted the number of gun death is a lot lower.
>>> You can not deny that the U.S has a big big problem with gun  
>>> violence
>>> you can do two things tell bullshit stories or doing something about
>>> it that works.
>>
>> Well, from a scientific attitude which I expect in contexts as  
>> this, I'd
>> say that comparing a figure (that, BTW, you are not giving with
>> references) that refers to two systems that cannot be more different
>> from a cultural, social, politic and geographic point of view and
>> jumping immediately to the most immediate conclusion (more gun  
>> deaths ->
>> because of more guns) sounds to me very naive. In any case, I fear  
>> that
>> if you look at the trends in Europe (or at least in parts of Europe),
>> you would probably be surprised: people in some regions feel less and
>> less secure and tend to own a gun more often that in the past.  
>> Clearly
>> the root cause here is the incapability of the state to guarantee  
>> security.
>>
>> --
>> Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager
>> Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere."
>> weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici -www.tidalwave.it/blog
>> [email protected] - mobile: +39 348.150.6941
> >


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