Another concrete remark : linux is not supported (yet). Do you have an idea for when it is planned ?
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Joshua Marinacci <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you. Though you say it's subjective your criticisms are concrete. > Streaming video is choppy, the browser integration isn't great, and you get > certificate dialogs (though the JavaFX runtime is signed by a trusted root > cert, you still get the dialog on Mac). These are all things we are aware of > and are fixing. > Thanks, > Josh > > > On May 6, 2009, at 5:57 AM, Michael Kimsal wrote: > > Did anyone hear read 'blink' by Malcolm Gladwell? The crux of the book is > that there are a number of 'snap decision' or 'gut reactions' people have, > can't > explain why, but are nonetheless born out as correct > predictions/assessments. > I'm reminded of that in the JavaFX discussion. > > JavaFX can tick off all the right checkboxes with respect to technology, > and has groups of people saying all the right stuff, yet a number of people > > (and I largely fall in this camp myself) are still saying 'no'. Or 'ick'. > Or 'wtf?'. > > People asking for followups about "what specifically is wrong? we can't > fix anything without specifics" are, in our camp's view, somewhat barking > up the wrong tree. You can't "fix" it because the whole thing is 'wrong'. > Yes, subjective terms, I know. Tweaking it with some functionality > enhancements or adding some new feature really isn't going to change > people's minds too much, at least in the short term. > > Not sure what else is going on with other languages, but the Griffon > team has done a great job in building an environment for doing > Swing app development with Groovy. > > I went to revisit the demo page for javafx just now. Why aren't the > security > certificates signed with a trusted root certificate? > > Not sure what the OP meant by 'ugly' but I'll throw out that just trying to > watch the streaming video demo was painful. Video disappeared when I > scrolled. Playback was choppy. Video quality was OK, but not quite as > sharp as I remember silverlight or flex video playback being. I may be > misremembering here, and I know that flash/flex can have some truly awful > video as well - it's not perfect. Perhaps I'm not using the latest and > greatest Java? > > java version "1.6.0_07" > Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_07-b06-153) > Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.6.0_07-b06-57, mixed mode) > > > > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Neil Bartlett <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> I don't see any actual arguments here about what is wrong with JavaFX. >> >> Actually it seems to be the JavaFX Script language that you have a >> problem with, not the platform or libraries etc. So, aside from "ugly" >> and "unintuitive" (which are highly subjective), why exactly do you >> think there is "just no possible way any sizable (sic) group of >> critical mass will ever adopt JavaFX"? Isn't that what they said about >> Java? And Ruby, and Python, and... >> >> > -- > Michael Kimsal > http://jsmag.com - for javascript developers > http://groovymag.com - for groovy developers > 919.827.4724 > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
