JavaFX looks quite interesting - I recently saw a presentation (at NY JavaSIG) where the presenter showed a 3D cube that could be rotated manually, and each face was playing a different movie from you tube.
The only question I have is download performance - I tried some of the small examples on the FX website and they were slow to load. I love being able to drag the applet out of the browser and I love the transparent background. Is that a javaFX thing or is that something that appeared on the applet scene since the last time I wrote applets way back in 1998? Regard Victor On May 9, 2009, at 3:49 PM, Ryan Waterer <[email protected]> wrote: > Very true statement there. Coming from a full, rich world of IDE > support in Java, it's a bit disconcerting to play in Java FX. > > However, I'm sure that the mighty Tor will have this all fixed for > us very soon. After all, he codes in his sleep doesn't he? :) > > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Bill Robertson <[email protected] > > wrote: > > One barrier to learning JavaFX is the tooling support. The Netbeans > plugin is frequently wrong. e.g. reports false errors, sometimes > shows imports as unused when they're not etc... So you're constantly > being fed a false stream of information about what is right/wrong as > you're attempting to learn and it makes it very hard to internalize > the language. > > On May 6, 8:18 am, Joshua Marinacci <[email protected]> wrote: > > Do you have any specific criticisms about the language? What > features > > do you find confusing or annoying? We are always looking for ways to > > improve it. > > > > - Josh > > > > On May 5, 2009, at 6:13 PM, Ed wrote: > > > > > > > > > Why is JavaFX such an extreme departure from Java? At least > Flex has > > > ActionScript and MXML--something that anyone reading this list can > > > figure out without having to look up and strain to grok. > > > > > I am trying, really trying, to get into JavaFX but I just cannot > > > tolerate it's ugliness. JavaFX has to be the single most > unintuitive > > > language to come out since COBOL. I mean really...can you be > serious? > > > > > I know that on one of the recent podcasts the posse was in > agreement > > > that JavaFX was going to be the future of desktop Java but I > > > respectfully disagree. There is just no possible way any sizable > > > group of critical mass will ever adopt JavaFX. As with any > > > technology, there will be 'pockets of users' but the whole > reason we > > > came over to Java from C++ was for the elegance and safety of > Java. > > > The write once redevelop everywhere fantasy has been painful for > the > > > past 15 years; Java is just now coming of age where we can > actually > > > write something once and get the rest for free. Why did Sun, now > > > Oracle, ever let JavaFX out of the lab? > > > > > JavaFX will do more harm than good for Java; the most JavaFX > will do > > > is make people consider Flex, and or Silverlight all that much > more. > > > > > What's so wrong with Swing anyway, why can't we just rev Swing and > > > Java3D? > > > > > I can see Groovy (or substitute your favorite JVM language Scala, > > > Clojure...etc here) breaking out with an elegant/terse wrapper > around > > > the Swing, Java2D, Java3D primitives long...long before JavaFX > ever > > > gets past the demo experiment that it is. Oracle should bury > JavaFX > > > as fast as it can. > > > > > That said the JavaFX 'rendering engine' is awesome. Just > awesome. If > > > you haven't yet tried it you are missing something truly great. > > > Oracle should roll the JavaFX engine into a standard Java7 > library. I > > > think JavaFX is the right idea it just needs (come on guys) a > > > realistic scripting language behind it. > > > > > I know I have been hard on JavaFX, I have I hopes for the future > of > > > Java and I strongly believe Java needs something like JavaFX going > > > forward. Great job to those who worked on JavaFX--as a > developer I > > > know how much work it must have taken--it was a necessary first > step > > > in a much needed direction. > > > > > Overall I give JavaFX a 'B-' > > > > > - > > > ed > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
