Anybody using something different than Kindle ?

On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 05:40, Robert Casto <[email protected]> wrote:

> If you have the money, go with both and enjoy the DX. If you don't have
> have to choose, then as jmcecil says, be very careful about choosing. I work
> mostly with technical documents, edit them, and occasionally have 30 to 60
> minutes to read something. My IEEE is great at all these things including
> surfing the web, reading email, even running a stripped down version of
> Eclipse so I can work with some code.
>
> While I enjoy reading, I find that audio books work better with my
> schedule. I can listen while I commute, exercise, or wait on the kids. I
> don't see that changing until my kids have grown and at that point I'd
> probably buy a Kindle in a heartbeat.
>
> Best of luck making your choice.
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM, jmcecil <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I can't stress how different reading on an e-book or laptop or iPhone
>> or whatever is to reading on a e-Ink device.  But, Mr. Cast is correct
>> about one thing for sure... Know what your reading habits are and what
>> you are trying to get done with the reader.  If you are an avid reader
>> of books in book form (not technical books or journals), an e-ink
>> device is the way to go.  If you have 2 or 3 paperbacks stuck in your
>> laptop case and a hardback or two in your suitcase, this is probably
>> you (actually that's me :)).  However, if your reading is all tech/
>> code/journal be VERY careful and be VERY picky.
>>
>> One of my goals to getting an e-reader was to hopfully get a library
>> of tech books to take with me, like API doc.  What I find is that the
>> poor organizational capabilities and the slow/cumbersome search
>> functions on the Kindle DX are not up to the task.  I looked at a few
>> others like the Sony and it didn't look any better on those.
>>
>> But, I do absolutely love the DX as a book reader.  It is vastly
>> superior to using a computer of any kind to read.  Also, there is this
>> thing on most airplanes called an "overhead light".  Works fine for
>> ambient light to read by.  Basically, if you can read a book, you can
>> read e-ink.  So, I guess what I'm saying is that if your read a lot of
>> books, get e-ink.
>>
>> On Dec 26, 7:38 pm, Robert Casto <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Yes, eInk is great for prolonged reading. I can't remember the last time
>> I
>> > had more than an hour where I could just sit and read though. :)
>> >
>> > I have seen the Kindle and it is great for people who are avid readers.
>> > Usually though I can't find more than 20-30 minutes to read something so
>> the
>> > laptop does great. Your mileage will vary. I just wanted to give people
>> > another option since if your reading habits are similar, you might find
>> more
>> > functionality out of a laptop. The battery lasts 8 hours on mine which
>> is
>> > more than enough for flights, reading, and anything else I want to do.
>> On an
>> > airplane you don't have any ambient light to read the Kindle with unless
>> you
>> > buy a book light.
>> >
>> > Don't knock it just because you think eInk is cool. It is, but it may
>> not
>> > work for everyone.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Joshua Marinacci <[email protected]
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Yes, the key to all of these is electronic paper. The most popular
>> form is
>> > > the technology from eInk, though there are several competing
>> technologies
>> > > that may hit the market soon.  Electronic paper is special because it
>> > > requires *no* power to keep the image and has a reflective surface
>> instead
>> > > of emissive.  Being reflective means you get greater contrast and the
>> > > brightness is a function of the ambient light around you, just like
>> real
>> > > paper. Since it requires power only when changing the image, not to
>> hold it,
>> > > an ebook reader can last for weeks even with continual use.
>> >
>> > > About ten years ago I had a chance to see some early epaper technology
>> at
>> > > Xerox PARC. The contrast was horrible, it was heavy, and the pixels
>> were
>> > > about a quarter inch each.  But I could tell that one day this stuff
>> would
>> > > be everywhere. Now that the production is ramping up I predict a
>> netbook or
>> > > PDA using this tech within 5 years, and active wallpaper within 20.
>> (yes,
>> > > you may have banner ads in your wallpaper :)
>> >
>> > > - Josh
>> >
>> > > On SatDec 26, 2009, at 4:03 AM, Rakesh wrote:
>> >
>> > > > what everyone is forgetting is that the ebook readers have a special
>> > > > technology for prolonged reading.
>> >
>> > > > Using iphones/laptops/monitors is fine for reading for short periods
>> > > > but extended reading is not comfortable, hence e-ink or whatever its
>> > > > called.
>> >
>> > > > I have a Sony PRS-505. The main issue is that pdfs don't render well
>> > > > at all. Thankfully I can usually get ePub format books.
>> >
>> > > > R
>> >
>> > > > On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 3:02 AM, Robert Casto <
>> [email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >> I have to agree. For the money I decided to get a really nice ASUS
>> IEEE
>> > > >> laptop with the extra memory. The thing can run some pretty cool
>> stuff
>> > > if
>> > > >> you are patient. Also, Amazon has released the Kindle software for
>> the
>> > > PC
>> > > >> which I have loaded up onto the IEEE. I don't get the same battery
>> life
>> > > or
>> > > >> experience, but I can view PDF's, watch movies, write code, and
>> much
>> > > more
>> > > >> for just a bit more money.
>> >
>> > > >> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Henrique de Miranda Gontijo
>> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > >>> Sorry, this isn't the main topic of this thread, but sincerely i
>> can't
>> > > see
>> > > >>> a reason to buy a ebook gadget in times of small and cheap
>> > > >>> notebooks/cellphones where you can do it easily.
>> > > >>> In Brazil, this kind of gadget is almost unknown.
>> > > >>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Jan Goyvaerts <
>> [email protected]
>> >
>> > > >>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > >>>> Maybe this is usable as ebook reader too ?
>> >
>> > >http://www.slashgear.com/notion-ink-tegra-android-smartpad-uses-pixel.
>> ..
>> >
>> > > >>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 16:57, Jan Goyvaerts <
>> [email protected]>
>> > > >>>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > >>>>> What about annotating a pdf ?
>> >
>> > > >>>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 15:57, Mark Volkmann <
>> > > [email protected]>
>> > > >>>>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Kfir Shay <
>> [email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>> Mark, how is the interface to load pre owned pdf and what is
>> the
>> > > >>>>>>> quality once its loaded
>> >
>> > > >>>>>> You attach the Kindle to your computer using a USB cable. The
>> Kindle
>> > > >>>>>> appears as a hard drive. You just copy PDF files over to it.
>> They
>> > > look
>> > > >>>>>> great on the Kindle. The only issue is that you can't change
>> the
>> > > font
>> > > >>>>>> size or zoom on PDFs. You can rotate the display 90 degrees
>> though
>> > > and
>> > > >>>>>> that makes the text larger.
>> >
>> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Mark Volkmann
>> > > >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>>> The Kindle 2 supports PDF now. I have one and like it a lot!
>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>> --
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>> > > >>>>>>>> Object Computing, Inc.
>> >
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