Spotty ? What about drawings and pictures of manuals ? On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:14, Rakesh <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have a sony PRS-505. The device itself is very stylish. The screen is > good but remember eink is grayscale only. > > Have spotty results with pdfs but much better with ePub (Prag prog do this > format and so does gutenberg). > > Currently bookshops seem to be pushing them as the next best thing( > http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/pages/new-readers/1918/ ) though > you can see they price of the books aren't far off the physical ones which > means early days. > > I think Steven Covey did some deal with Amazon which may make the bring > publishing houses quake in their boots! > > Rakesh > > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Jan Goyvaerts <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Anybody using something different than Kindle ? > > > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 05:40, Robert Casto <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> If you have the money, go with both and enjoy the DX. If you don't have > >> have to choose, then as jmcecil says, be very careful about choosing. I > work > >> mostly with technical documents, edit them, and occasionally have 30 to > 60 > >> minutes to read something. My IEEE is great at all these things > including > >> surfing the web, reading email, even running a stripped down version of > >> Eclipse so I can work with some code. > >> > >> While I enjoy reading, I find that audio books work better with my > >> schedule. I can listen while I commute, exercise, or wait on the kids. I > >> don't see that changing until my kids have grown and at that point I'd > >> probably buy a Kindle in a heartbeat. > >> > >> Best of luck making your choice. > >> > >> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM, jmcecil <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> I can't stress how different reading on an e-book or laptop or iPhone > >>> or whatever is to reading on a e-Ink device. But, Mr. Cast is correct > >>> about one thing for sure... Know what your reading habits are and what > >>> you are trying to get done with the reader. If you are an avid reader > >>> of books in book form (not technical books or journals), an e-ink > >>> device is the way to go. If you have 2 or 3 paperbacks stuck in your > >>> laptop case and a hardback or two in your suitcase, this is probably > >>> you (actually that's me :)). However, if your reading is all tech/ > >>> code/journal be VERY careful and be VERY picky. > >>> > >>> One of my goals to getting an e-reader was to hopfully get a library > >>> of tech books to take with me, like API doc. What I find is that the > >>> poor organizational capabilities and the slow/cumbersome search > >>> functions on the Kindle DX are not up to the task. I looked at a few > >>> others like the Sony and it didn't look any better on those. > >>> > >>> But, I do absolutely love the DX as a book reader. It is vastly > >>> superior to using a computer of any kind to read. Also, there is this > >>> thing on most airplanes called an "overhead light". Works fine for > >>> ambient light to read by. Basically, if you can read a book, you can > >>> read e-ink. So, I guess what I'm saying is that if your read a lot of > >>> books, get e-ink. > >>> > >>> On Dec 26, 7:38 pm, Robert Casto <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > Yes, eInk is great for prolonged reading. I can't remember the last > >>> > time I > >>> > had more than an hour where I could just sit and read though. :) > >>> > > >>> > I have seen the Kindle and it is great for people who are avid > readers. > >>> > Usually though I can't find more than 20-30 minutes to read something > >>> > so the > >>> > laptop does great. Your mileage will vary. I just wanted to give > people > >>> > another option since if your reading habits are similar, you might > find > >>> > more > >>> > functionality out of a laptop. The battery lasts 8 hours on mine > which > >>> > is > >>> > more than enough for flights, reading, and anything else I want to > do. > >>> > On an > >>> > airplane you don't have any ambient light to read the Kindle with > >>> > unless you > >>> > buy a book light. > >>> > > >>> > Don't knock it just because you think eInk is cool. It is, but it may > >>> > not > >>> > work for everyone. > >>> > > >>> > On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Joshua Marinacci > >>> > <[email protected]>wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Yes, the key to all of these is electronic paper. The most popular > >>> > > form is > >>> > > the technology from eInk, though there are several competing > >>> > > technologies > >>> > > that may hit the market soon. Electronic paper is special because > it > >>> > > requires *no* power to keep the image and has a reflective surface > >>> > > instead > >>> > > of emissive. Being reflective means you get greater contrast and > the > >>> > > brightness is a function of the ambient light around you, just like > >>> > > real > >>> > > paper. Since it requires power only when changing the image, not to > >>> > > hold it, > >>> > > an ebook reader can last for weeks even with continual use. > >>> > > >>> > > About ten years ago I had a chance to see some early epaper > >>> > > technology at > >>> > > Xerox PARC. The contrast was horrible, it was heavy, and the pixels > >>> > > were > >>> > > about a quarter inch each. But I could tell that one day this > stuff > >>> > > would > >>> > > be everywhere. Now that the production is ramping up I predict a > >>> > > netbook or > >>> > > PDA using this tech within 5 years, and active wallpaper within 20. > >>> > > (yes, > >>> > > you may have banner ads in your wallpaper :) > >>> > > >>> > > - Josh > >>> > > >>> > > On SatDec 26, 2009, at 4:03 AM, Rakesh wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > > what everyone is forgetting is that the ebook readers have a > >>> > > > special > >>> > > > technology for prolonged reading. > >>> > > >>> > > > Using iphones/laptops/monitors is fine for reading for short > >>> > > > periods > >>> > > > but extended reading is not comfortable, hence e-ink or whatever > >>> > > > its > >>> > > > called. > >>> > > >>> > > > I have a Sony PRS-505. The main issue is that pdfs don't render > >>> > > > well > >>> > > > at all. Thankfully I can usually get ePub format books. > >>> > > >>> > > > R > >>> > > >>> > > > On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 3:02 AM, Robert Casto > >>> > > > <[email protected]> > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > >> I have to agree. For the money I decided to get a really nice > ASUS > >>> > > >> IEEE > >>> > > >> laptop with the extra memory. The thing can run some pretty cool > >>> > > >> stuff > >>> > > if > >>> > > >> you are patient. Also, Amazon has released the Kindle software > for > >>> > > >> the > >>> > > PC > >>> > > >> which I have loaded up onto the IEEE. I don't get the same > battery > >>> > > >> life > >>> > > or > >>> > > >> experience, but I can view PDF's, watch movies, write code, and > >>> > > >> much > >>> > > more > >>> > > >> for just a bit more money. > >>> > > >>> > > >> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Henrique de Miranda Gontijo > >>> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Sorry, this isn't the main topic of this thread, but sincerely > i > >>> > > >>> can't > >>> > > see > >>> > > >>> a reason to buy a ebook gadget in times of small and cheap > >>> > > >>> notebooks/cellphones where you can do it easily. > >>> > > >>> In Brazil, this kind of gadget is almost unknown. > >>> > > >>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Jan Goyvaerts > >>> > > >>> <[email protected] > >>> > > >>> > > >>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> Maybe this is usable as ebook reader too ? > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > > http://www.slashgear.com/notion-ink-tegra-android-smartpad-uses-pixel... > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 16:57, Jan Goyvaerts > >>> > > >>>> <[email protected]> > >>> > > >>>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>> What about annotating a pdf ? > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 15:57, Mark Volkmann < > >>> > > [email protected]> > >>> > > >>>>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Kfir Shay > >>> > > >>>>>> <[email protected]> > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > >>>>>>> Mark, how is the interface to load pre owned pdf and what > is > >>> > > >>>>>>> the > >>> > > >>>>>>> quality once its loaded > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>> You attach the Kindle to your computer using a USB cable. > The > >>> > > >>>>>> Kindle > >>> > > >>>>>> appears as a hard drive. You just copy PDF files over to it. > >>> > > >>>>>> They > >>> > > look > >>> > > >>>>>> great on the Kindle. The only issue is that you can't change > >>> > > >>>>>> the > >>> > > font > >>> > > >>>>>> size or zoom on PDFs. You can rotate the display 90 degrees > >>> > > >>>>>> though > >>> > > and > >>> > > >>>>>> that makes the text larger. > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Mark Volkmann > >>> > > >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > > >>>>>>>> The Kindle 2 supports PDF now. I have one and like it a > lot! > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>>>> -- > >>> > > >>>>>>>> R. Mark Volkmann > >>> > > >>>>>>>> Object Computing, Inc. > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>>>> -- > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to > the > >>> > > >>>>>>>> Google > >>> > > >>>>>>>> Groups "The Java Posse" group. > >>> > > >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > >>> > > >>>>>>>> [email protected]. > >>> > > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > <javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > >>> > > . > >>> > > >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> > > >>>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>>> -- > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >>> > > >>>>>>> Google > >>> > > >>>>>>> Groups "The Java Posse" group. > >>> > > >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > >>> > > >>>>>>> [email protected]. > >>> > > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > >>>>>>> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > <javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > >>> > > . > >>> > > >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> > > >>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>> -- > >>> > > >>>>>> R. Mark Volkmann > >>> > > >>>>>> Object Computing, Inc. > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>> -- > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >>> > > >>>>>> Google > >>> > > >>>>>> Groups "The Java Posse" group. > >>> > > >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > >>> > > >>>>>> [email protected]. > >>> > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> > > >>>>>> > >>> > > >>>>>> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > <javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > >>> > > . > >>> > > >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> > > >>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> -- > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >>> > > >>>> Google > >>> > > Groups > >>> > > >>>> "The Java Posse" group. > >>> > > >>>> To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > >>> > > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> > > >>>> > >>> > > >>>> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > <javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > >>> > > . > >>> > > >>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> > > >>>>http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > >>> > > >>> > > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >>> > > >>> Google > >>> > > Groups > >>> > > >>> "The Java Posse" group. > >>> > > >>> To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > >>> > > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > <javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > >>> > > . > >>> > > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> > > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > >>> > > >>> > > >> -- > >>> > > >> Robert Casto > >>> > > >>www.IWantFreeShipping.com > >>> > > >> Find Amazon Filler Items easily! > >>> > > >>> > > >> -- > >>> > > >>> > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google > >>> > > Groups > >>> > > >> "The Java Posse" group. > >>> > > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > . > >>> > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > <javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > >>> > > . > >>> > > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>> > > >>http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > >>> > > >>> > > > -- > >>> > > >>> > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google > >>> > > > Groups > >>> > > "The Java Posse" group. > >>> > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>> > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> > > > >>> > > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > <javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > >>> > > . > >>> > > > For more options, visit this group at > >>> > >http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > >>> > > >>> > > -- > >>> > > >>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>> > > Groups > >>> > > "The Java Posse" group. > >>> > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> > > > >>> > > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > <javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > >>> > > . > >>> > > For more options, visit this group at > >>> > >http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > Robert Castowww.IWantFreeShipping.com > >>> > Find Amazon Filler Items easily!- Hide quoted text - > >>> > > >>> > - Show quoted text - > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >>> "The Java Posse" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Robert Casto > >> www.IWantFreeShipping.com > >> Find Amazon Filler Items easily! > >> > >> -- > >> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "The Java Posse" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "The Java Posse" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
