anybody using a stylus to annotate pdf's ? On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 15:47, Kevin Wright <[email protected]>wrote:
> I also use a PRS-505 > > Regarding PDFs, I've found that it makes a major difference if I first crop > the margins before uploading them to the device, I just can't recall the > program I used! (pretty stupid, as I should have taken note of this before > upgrading to windows 7...) > > Hopefully a future firmware upgrade will allow the device to zoom into just > visible content and not waste valuable space on margins. > > The reflow on zoomed PDFs is weak, but that's a limitation of the format > and not the device, viewing in landscape is much more effective. > > > 2009/12/31 Rakesh <[email protected]> > > some pdfs render ok others are pretty bad (headers/footers in random >> locations). The images are greyscale so it depends on whether they will view >> ok. >> >> To be honest, I mostly buy prose-heavy ebooks so its not a big deal. >> >> Pragmatic Programmers have really good support for ePub as does Manning. >> APress is not so good as they provide password-protected pdfs and since >> there is no input on the Sony, I have not been able to read them. >> >> Rakesh >> >> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Jan Goyvaerts >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Spotty ? What about drawings and pictures of manuals ? >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:14, Rakesh <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> I have a sony PRS-505. The device itself is very stylish. The screen is >>>> good but remember eink is grayscale only. >>>> >>>> Have spotty results with pdfs but much better with ePub (Prag prog do >>>> this format and so does gutenberg). >>>> >>>> Currently bookshops seem to be pushing them as the next best thing( >>>> http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/pages/new-readers/1918/ ) >>>> though you can see they price of the books aren't far off the physical ones >>>> which means early days. >>>> >>>> I think Steven Covey did some deal with Amazon which may make the bring >>>> publishing houses quake in their boots! >>>> >>>> Rakesh >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Jan Goyvaerts <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > Anybody using something different than Kindle ? >>>> > >>>> > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 05:40, Robert Casto <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> If you have the money, go with both and enjoy the DX. If you don't >>>> have >>>> >> have to choose, then as jmcecil says, be very careful about choosing. >>>> I work >>>> >> mostly with technical documents, edit them, and occasionally have 30 >>>> to 60 >>>> >> minutes to read something. My IEEE is great at all these things >>>> including >>>> >> surfing the web, reading email, even running a stripped down version >>>> of >>>> >> Eclipse so I can work with some code. >>>> >> >>>> >> While I enjoy reading, I find that audio books work better with my >>>> >> schedule. I can listen while I commute, exercise, or wait on the >>>> kids. I >>>> >> don't see that changing until my kids have grown and at that point >>>> I'd >>>> >> probably buy a Kindle in a heartbeat. >>>> >> >>>> >> Best of luck making your choice. >>>> >> >>>> >> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM, jmcecil <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I can't stress how different reading on an e-book or laptop or >>>> iPhone >>>> >>> or whatever is to reading on a e-Ink device. But, Mr. Cast is >>>> correct >>>> >>> about one thing for sure... Know what your reading habits are and >>>> what >>>> >>> you are trying to get done with the reader. If you are an avid >>>> reader >>>> >>> of books in book form (not technical books or journals), an e-ink >>>> >>> device is the way to go. If you have 2 or 3 paperbacks stuck in >>>> your >>>> >>> laptop case and a hardback or two in your suitcase, this is probably >>>> >>> you (actually that's me :)). However, if your reading is all tech/ >>>> >>> code/journal be VERY careful and be VERY picky. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> One of my goals to getting an e-reader was to hopfully get a library >>>> >>> of tech books to take with me, like API doc. What I find is that >>>> the >>>> >>> poor organizational capabilities and the slow/cumbersome search >>>> >>> functions on the Kindle DX are not up to the task. I looked at a >>>> few >>>> >>> others like the Sony and it didn't look any better on those. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> But, I do absolutely love the DX as a book reader. It is vastly >>>> >>> superior to using a computer of any kind to read. Also, there is >>>> this >>>> >>> thing on most airplanes called an "overhead light". Works fine for >>>> >>> ambient light to read by. Basically, if you can read a book, you >>>> can >>>> >>> read e-ink. So, I guess what I'm saying is that if your read a lot >>>> of >>>> >>> books, get e-ink. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Dec 26, 7:38 pm, Robert Casto <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>> > Yes, eInk is great for prolonged reading. I can't remember the >>>> last >>>> >>> > time I >>>> >>> > had more than an hour where I could just sit and read though. :) >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > I have seen the Kindle and it is great for people who are avid >>>> readers. >>>> >>> > Usually though I can't find more than 20-30 minutes to read >>>> something >>>> >>> > so the >>>> >>> > laptop does great. Your mileage will vary. I just wanted to give >>>> people >>>> >>> > another option since if your reading habits are similar, you might >>>> find >>>> >>> > more >>>> >>> > functionality out of a laptop. The battery lasts 8 hours on mine >>>> which >>>> >>> > is >>>> >>> > more than enough for flights, reading, and anything else I want to >>>> do. >>>> >>> > On an >>>> >>> > airplane you don't have any ambient light to read the Kindle with >>>> >>> > unless you >>>> >>> > buy a book light. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > Don't knock it just because you think eInk is cool. It is, but it >>>> may >>>> >>> > not >>>> >>> > work for everyone. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Joshua Marinacci >>>> >>> > <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > Yes, the key to all of these is electronic paper. The most >>>> popular >>>> >>> > > form is >>>> >>> > > the technology from eInk, though there are several competing >>>> >>> > > technologies >>>> >>> > > that may hit the market soon. Electronic paper is special >>>> because it >>>> >>> > > requires *no* power to keep the image and has a reflective >>>> surface >>>> >>> > > instead >>>> >>> > > of emissive. Being reflective means you get greater contrast >>>> and the >>>> >>> > > brightness is a function of the ambient light around you, just >>>> like >>>> >>> > > real >>>> >>> > > paper. Since it requires power only when changing the image, not >>>> to >>>> >>> > > hold it, >>>> >>> > > an ebook reader can last for weeks even with continual use. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > About ten years ago I had a chance to see some early epaper >>>> >>> > > technology at >>>> >>> > > Xerox PARC. The contrast was horrible, it was heavy, and the >>>> pixels >>>> >>> > > were >>>> >>> > > about a quarter inch each. But I could tell that one day this >>>> stuff >>>> >>> > > would >>>> >>> > > be everywhere. Now that the production is ramping up I predict a >>>> >>> > > netbook or >>>> >>> > > PDA using this tech within 5 years, and active wallpaper within >>>> 20. >>>> >>> > > (yes, >>>> >>> > > you may have banner ads in your wallpaper :) >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > - Josh >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > On SatDec 26, 2009, at 4:03 AM, Rakesh wrote: >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > > what everyone is forgetting is that the ebook readers have a >>>> >>> > > > special >>>> >>> > > > technology for prolonged reading. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > > Using iphones/laptops/monitors is fine for reading for short >>>> >>> > > > periods >>>> >>> > > > but extended reading is not comfortable, hence e-ink or >>>> whatever >>>> >>> > > > its >>>> >>> > > > called. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > > I have a Sony PRS-505. The main issue is that pdfs don't >>>> render >>>> >>> > > > well >>>> >>> > > > at all. Thankfully I can usually get ePub format books. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > > R >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > > On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 3:02 AM, Robert Casto >>>> >>> > > > <[email protected]> >>>> >>> > > wrote: >>>> >>> > > >> I have to agree. For the money I decided to get a really nice >>>> ASUS >>>> >>> > > >> IEEE >>>> >>> > > >> laptop with the extra memory. The thing can run some pretty >>>> cool >>>> >>> > > >> stuff >>>> >>> > > if >>>> >>> > > >> you are patient. Also, Amazon has released the Kindle >>>> software for >>>> >>> > > >> the >>>> >>> > > PC >>>> >>> > > >> which I have loaded up onto the IEEE. I don't get the same >>>> battery >>>> >>> > > >> life >>>> >>> > > or >>>> >>> > > >> experience, but I can view PDF's, watch movies, write code, >>>> and >>>> >>> > > >> much >>>> >>> > > more >>>> >>> > > >> for just a bit more money. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > >> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Henrique de Miranda Gontijo >>>> >>> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > >>> Sorry, this isn't the main topic of this thread, but >>>> sincerely i >>>> >>> > > >>> can't >>>> >>> > > see >>>> >>> > > >>> a reason to buy a ebook gadget in times of small and cheap >>>> >>> > > >>> notebooks/cellphones where you can do it easily. >>>> >>> > > >>> In Brazil, this kind of gadget is almost unknown. >>>> >>> > > >>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Jan Goyvaerts >>>> >>> > > >>> <[email protected] >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > >>> wrote: >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > >>>> Maybe this is usable as ebook reader too ? >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > > >>>> http://www.slashgear.com/notion-ink-tegra-android-smartpad-uses-pixel. >>>> .. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > >>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 16:57, Jan Goyvaerts >>>> >>> > > >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> >>> > > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > >>>>> What about annotating a pdf ? >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > >>>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 15:57, Mark Volkmann < >>>> >>> > > [email protected]> >>>> >>> > > >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Kfir Shay >>>> >>> > > >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>> >>> > > wrote: >>>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Mark, how is the interface to load pre owned pdf and >>>> what is >>>> >>> > > >>>>>>> the >>>> >>> > > >>>>>>> quality once its loaded >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > >>>>>> You attach the Kindle to your computer using a USB cable. >>>> The >>>> >>> > > >>>>>> Kindle >>>> >>> > > >>>>>> appears as a hard drive. You just copy PDF files over to >>>> it. >>>> >>> > > >>>>>> They >>>> >>> > > look >>>> >>> > > >>>>>> great on the Kindle. The only issue is that you can't >>>> change >>>> >>> > > >>>>>> the >>>> >>> > > font >>>> >>> > > >>>>>> size or zoom on PDFs. You can rotate the display 90 >>>> degrees >>>> >>> > > >>>>>> though >>>> >>> > > and >>>> >>> > > >>>>>> that makes the text larger. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Mark Volkmann >>>> >>> > > >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> The Kindle 2 supports PDF now. I have one and like it a >>>> lot! >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> -- >>>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> R. 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