I have a sony PRS-505. The device itself is very stylish. The screen is good but remember eink is grayscale only.
Have spotty results with pdfs but much better with ePub (Prag prog do this format and so does gutenberg). Currently bookshops seem to be pushing them as the next best thing( http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/pages/new-readers/1918/ ) though you can see they price of the books aren't far off the physical ones which means early days. I think Steven Covey did some deal with Amazon which may make the bring publishing houses quake in their boots! Rakesh On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Jan Goyvaerts <[email protected]> wrote: > Anybody using something different than Kindle ? > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 05:40, Robert Casto <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> If you have the money, go with both and enjoy the DX. If you don't have >> have to choose, then as jmcecil says, be very careful about choosing. I work >> mostly with technical documents, edit them, and occasionally have 30 to 60 >> minutes to read something. My IEEE is great at all these things including >> surfing the web, reading email, even running a stripped down version of >> Eclipse so I can work with some code. >> >> While I enjoy reading, I find that audio books work better with my >> schedule. I can listen while I commute, exercise, or wait on the kids. I >> don't see that changing until my kids have grown and at that point I'd >> probably buy a Kindle in a heartbeat. >> >> Best of luck making your choice. >> >> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM, jmcecil <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I can't stress how different reading on an e-book or laptop or iPhone >>> or whatever is to reading on a e-Ink device. But, Mr. Cast is correct >>> about one thing for sure... Know what your reading habits are and what >>> you are trying to get done with the reader. If you are an avid reader >>> of books in book form (not technical books or journals), an e-ink >>> device is the way to go. If you have 2 or 3 paperbacks stuck in your >>> laptop case and a hardback or two in your suitcase, this is probably >>> you (actually that's me :)). However, if your reading is all tech/ >>> code/journal be VERY careful and be VERY picky. >>> >>> One of my goals to getting an e-reader was to hopfully get a library >>> of tech books to take with me, like API doc. What I find is that the >>> poor organizational capabilities and the slow/cumbersome search >>> functions on the Kindle DX are not up to the task. I looked at a few >>> others like the Sony and it didn't look any better on those. >>> >>> But, I do absolutely love the DX as a book reader. It is vastly >>> superior to using a computer of any kind to read. Also, there is this >>> thing on most airplanes called an "overhead light". Works fine for >>> ambient light to read by. Basically, if you can read a book, you can >>> read e-ink. So, I guess what I'm saying is that if your read a lot of >>> books, get e-ink. >>> >>> On Dec 26, 7:38 pm, Robert Casto <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Yes, eInk is great for prolonged reading. I can't remember the last >>> > time I >>> > had more than an hour where I could just sit and read though. :) >>> > >>> > I have seen the Kindle and it is great for people who are avid readers. >>> > Usually though I can't find more than 20-30 minutes to read something >>> > so the >>> > laptop does great. Your mileage will vary. I just wanted to give people >>> > another option since if your reading habits are similar, you might find >>> > more >>> > functionality out of a laptop. The battery lasts 8 hours on mine which >>> > is >>> > more than enough for flights, reading, and anything else I want to do. >>> > On an >>> > airplane you don't have any ambient light to read the Kindle with >>> > unless you >>> > buy a book light. >>> > >>> > Don't knock it just because you think eInk is cool. It is, but it may >>> > not >>> > work for everyone. >>> > >>> > On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Joshua Marinacci >>> > <[email protected]>wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > Yes, the key to all of these is electronic paper. The most popular >>> > > form is >>> > > the technology from eInk, though there are several competing >>> > > technologies >>> > > that may hit the market soon. Electronic paper is special because it >>> > > requires *no* power to keep the image and has a reflective surface >>> > > instead >>> > > of emissive. Being reflective means you get greater contrast and the >>> > > brightness is a function of the ambient light around you, just like >>> > > real >>> > > paper. Since it requires power only when changing the image, not to >>> > > hold it, >>> > > an ebook reader can last for weeks even with continual use. >>> > >>> > > About ten years ago I had a chance to see some early epaper >>> > > technology at >>> > > Xerox PARC. The contrast was horrible, it was heavy, and the pixels >>> > > were >>> > > about a quarter inch each. But I could tell that one day this stuff >>> > > would >>> > > be everywhere. Now that the production is ramping up I predict a >>> > > netbook or >>> > > PDA using this tech within 5 years, and active wallpaper within 20. >>> > > (yes, >>> > > you may have banner ads in your wallpaper :) >>> > >>> > > - Josh >>> > >>> > > On SatDec 26, 2009, at 4:03 AM, Rakesh wrote: >>> > >>> > > > what everyone is forgetting is that the ebook readers have a >>> > > > special >>> > > > technology for prolonged reading. >>> > >>> > > > Using iphones/laptops/monitors is fine for reading for short >>> > > > periods >>> > > > but extended reading is not comfortable, hence e-ink or whatever >>> > > > its >>> > > > called. >>> > >>> > > > I have a Sony PRS-505. The main issue is that pdfs don't render >>> > > > well >>> > > > at all. Thankfully I can usually get ePub format books. >>> > >>> > > > R >>> > >>> > > > On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 3:02 AM, Robert Casto >>> > > > <[email protected]> >>> > > wrote: >>> > > >> I have to agree. For the money I decided to get a really nice ASUS >>> > > >> IEEE >>> > > >> laptop with the extra memory. The thing can run some pretty cool >>> > > >> stuff >>> > > if >>> > > >> you are patient. Also, Amazon has released the Kindle software for >>> > > >> the >>> > > PC >>> > > >> which I have loaded up onto the IEEE. I don't get the same battery >>> > > >> life >>> > > or >>> > > >> experience, but I can view PDF's, watch movies, write code, and >>> > > >> much >>> > > more >>> > > >> for just a bit more money. >>> > >>> > > >> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Henrique de Miranda Gontijo >>> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > > >>> Sorry, this isn't the main topic of this thread, but sincerely i >>> > > >>> can't >>> > > see >>> > > >>> a reason to buy a ebook gadget in times of small and cheap >>> > > >>> notebooks/cellphones where you can do it easily. >>> > > >>> In Brazil, this kind of gadget is almost unknown. >>> > > >>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Jan Goyvaerts >>> > > >>> <[email protected] >>> > >>> > > >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > > >>>> Maybe this is usable as ebook reader too ? >>> > >>> > >>> > > > http://www.slashgear.com/notion-ink-tegra-android-smartpad-uses-pixel... >>> > >>> > > >>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 16:57, Jan Goyvaerts >>> > > >>>> <[email protected]> >>> > > >>>> wrote: >>> > >>> > > >>>>> What about annotating a pdf ? >>> > >>> > > >>>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 15:57, Mark Volkmann < >>> > > [email protected]> >>> > > >>>>> wrote: >>> > >>> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Kfir Shay >>> > > >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>> > > wrote: >>> > > >>>>>>> Mark, how is the interface to load pre owned pdf and what is >>> > > >>>>>>> the >>> > > >>>>>>> quality once its loaded >>> > >>> > > >>>>>> You attach the Kindle to your computer using a USB cable. The >>> > > >>>>>> Kindle >>> > > >>>>>> appears as a hard drive. You just copy PDF files over to it. >>> > > >>>>>> They >>> > > look >>> > > >>>>>> great on the Kindle. The only issue is that you can't change >>> > > >>>>>> the >>> > > font >>> > > >>>>>> size or zoom on PDFs. You can rotate the display 90 degrees >>> > > >>>>>> though >>> > > and >>> > > >>>>>> that makes the text larger. >>> > >>> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Mark Volkmann >>> > > >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > > >>>>>>>> The Kindle 2 supports PDF now. I have one and like it a lot! >>> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> -- >>> > > >>>>>>>> R. 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