some pdfs render ok others are pretty bad (headers/footers in random locations). The images are greyscale so it depends on whether they will view ok.
To be honest, I mostly buy prose-heavy ebooks so its not a big deal. Pragmatic Programmers have really good support for ePub as does Manning. APress is not so good as they provide password-protected pdfs and since there is no input on the Sony, I have not been able to read them. Rakesh On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Jan Goyvaerts <[email protected]>wrote: > Spotty ? What about drawings and pictures of manuals ? > > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:14, Rakesh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I have a sony PRS-505. The device itself is very stylish. The screen is >> good but remember eink is grayscale only. >> >> Have spotty results with pdfs but much better with ePub (Prag prog do this >> format and so does gutenberg). >> >> Currently bookshops seem to be pushing them as the next best thing( >> http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/pages/new-readers/1918/ ) >> though you can see they price of the books aren't far off the physical ones >> which means early days. >> >> I think Steven Covey did some deal with Amazon which may make the bring >> publishing houses quake in their boots! >> >> Rakesh >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Jan Goyvaerts <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Anybody using something different than Kindle ? >> > >> > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 05:40, Robert Casto <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> If you have the money, go with both and enjoy the DX. If you don't have >> >> have to choose, then as jmcecil says, be very careful about choosing. I >> work >> >> mostly with technical documents, edit them, and occasionally have 30 to >> 60 >> >> minutes to read something. My IEEE is great at all these things >> including >> >> surfing the web, reading email, even running a stripped down version of >> >> Eclipse so I can work with some code. >> >> >> >> While I enjoy reading, I find that audio books work better with my >> >> schedule. I can listen while I commute, exercise, or wait on the kids. >> I >> >> don't see that changing until my kids have grown and at that point I'd >> >> probably buy a Kindle in a heartbeat. >> >> >> >> Best of luck making your choice. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM, jmcecil <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I can't stress how different reading on an e-book or laptop or iPhone >> >>> or whatever is to reading on a e-Ink device. But, Mr. Cast is correct >> >>> about one thing for sure... Know what your reading habits are and what >> >>> you are trying to get done with the reader. If you are an avid reader >> >>> of books in book form (not technical books or journals), an e-ink >> >>> device is the way to go. If you have 2 or 3 paperbacks stuck in your >> >>> laptop case and a hardback or two in your suitcase, this is probably >> >>> you (actually that's me :)). However, if your reading is all tech/ >> >>> code/journal be VERY careful and be VERY picky. >> >>> >> >>> One of my goals to getting an e-reader was to hopfully get a library >> >>> of tech books to take with me, like API doc. What I find is that the >> >>> poor organizational capabilities and the slow/cumbersome search >> >>> functions on the Kindle DX are not up to the task. I looked at a few >> >>> others like the Sony and it didn't look any better on those. >> >>> >> >>> But, I do absolutely love the DX as a book reader. It is vastly >> >>> superior to using a computer of any kind to read. Also, there is this >> >>> thing on most airplanes called an "overhead light". Works fine for >> >>> ambient light to read by. Basically, if you can read a book, you can >> >>> read e-ink. So, I guess what I'm saying is that if your read a lot of >> >>> books, get e-ink. >> >>> >> >>> On Dec 26, 7:38 pm, Robert Casto <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> > Yes, eInk is great for prolonged reading. I can't remember the last >> >>> > time I >> >>> > had more than an hour where I could just sit and read though. :) >> >>> > >> >>> > I have seen the Kindle and it is great for people who are avid >> readers. >> >>> > Usually though I can't find more than 20-30 minutes to read >> something >> >>> > so the >> >>> > laptop does great. Your mileage will vary. I just wanted to give >> people >> >>> > another option since if your reading habits are similar, you might >> find >> >>> > more >> >>> > functionality out of a laptop. The battery lasts 8 hours on mine >> which >> >>> > is >> >>> > more than enough for flights, reading, and anything else I want to >> do. >> >>> > On an >> >>> > airplane you don't have any ambient light to read the Kindle with >> >>> > unless you >> >>> > buy a book light. >> >>> > >> >>> > Don't knock it just because you think eInk is cool. It is, but it >> may >> >>> > not >> >>> > work for everyone. >> >>> > >> >>> > On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Joshua Marinacci >> >>> > <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > > Yes, the key to all of these is electronic paper. The most popular >> >>> > > form is >> >>> > > the technology from eInk, though there are several competing >> >>> > > technologies >> >>> > > that may hit the market soon. Electronic paper is special because >> it >> >>> > > requires *no* power to keep the image and has a reflective surface >> >>> > > instead >> >>> > > of emissive. Being reflective means you get greater contrast and >> the >> >>> > > brightness is a function of the ambient light around you, just >> like >> >>> > > real >> >>> > > paper. Since it requires power only when changing the image, not >> to >> >>> > > hold it, >> >>> > > an ebook reader can last for weeks even with continual use. >> >>> > >> >>> > > About ten years ago I had a chance to see some early epaper >> >>> > > technology at >> >>> > > Xerox PARC. The contrast was horrible, it was heavy, and the >> pixels >> >>> > > were >> >>> > > about a quarter inch each. But I could tell that one day this >> stuff >> >>> > > would >> >>> > > be everywhere. Now that the production is ramping up I predict a >> >>> > > netbook or >> >>> > > PDA using this tech within 5 years, and active wallpaper within >> 20. >> >>> > > (yes, >> >>> > > you may have banner ads in your wallpaper :) >> >>> > >> >>> > > - Josh >> >>> > >> >>> > > On SatDec 26, 2009, at 4:03 AM, Rakesh wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> > > > what everyone is forgetting is that the ebook readers have a >> >>> > > > special >> >>> > > > technology for prolonged reading. >> >>> > >> >>> > > > Using iphones/laptops/monitors is fine for reading for short >> >>> > > > periods >> >>> > > > but extended reading is not comfortable, hence e-ink or whatever >> >>> > > > its >> >>> > > > called. >> >>> > >> >>> > > > I have a Sony PRS-505. The main issue is that pdfs don't render >> >>> > > > well >> >>> > > > at all. Thankfully I can usually get ePub format books. >> >>> > >> >>> > > > R >> >>> > >> >>> > > > On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 3:02 AM, Robert Casto >> >>> > > > <[email protected]> >> >>> > > wrote: >> >>> > > >> I have to agree. For the money I decided to get a really nice >> ASUS >> >>> > > >> IEEE >> >>> > > >> laptop with the extra memory. The thing can run some pretty >> cool >> >>> > > >> stuff >> >>> > > if >> >>> > > >> you are patient. Also, Amazon has released the Kindle software >> for >> >>> > > >> the >> >>> > > PC >> >>> > > >> which I have loaded up onto the IEEE. I don't get the same >> battery >> >>> > > >> life >> >>> > > or >> >>> > > >> experience, but I can view PDF's, watch movies, write code, and >> >>> > > >> much >> >>> > > more >> >>> > > >> for just a bit more money. >> >>> > >> >>> > > >> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Henrique de Miranda Gontijo >> >>> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> > > >>> Sorry, this isn't the main topic of this thread, but sincerely >> i >> >>> > > >>> can't >> >>> > > see >> >>> > > >>> a reason to buy a ebook gadget in times of small and cheap >> >>> > > >>> notebooks/cellphones where you can do it easily. >> >>> > > >>> In Brazil, this kind of gadget is almost unknown. >> >>> > > >>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Jan Goyvaerts >> >>> > > >>> <[email protected] >> >>> > >> >>> > > >>> wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> > > >>>> Maybe this is usable as ebook reader too ? >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > > > >> http://www.slashgear.com/notion-ink-tegra-android-smartpad-uses-pixel... >> >>> > >> >>> > > >>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 16:57, Jan Goyvaerts >> >>> > > >>>> <[email protected]> >> >>> > > >>>> wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> > > >>>>> What about annotating a pdf ? >> >>> > >> >>> > > >>>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 15:57, Mark Volkmann < >> >>> > > [email protected]> >> >>> > > >>>>> wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Kfir Shay >> >>> > > >>>>>> <[email protected]> >> >>> > > wrote: >> >>> > > >>>>>>> Mark, how is the interface to load pre owned pdf and what >> is >> >>> > > >>>>>>> the >> >>> > > >>>>>>> quality once its loaded >> >>> > >> >>> > > >>>>>> You attach the Kindle to your computer using a USB cable. >> The >> >>> > > >>>>>> Kindle >> >>> > > >>>>>> appears as a hard drive. You just copy PDF files over to >> it. >> >>> > > >>>>>> They >> >>> > > look >> >>> > > >>>>>> great on the Kindle. The only issue is that you can't >> change >> >>> > > >>>>>> the >> >>> > > font >> >>> > > >>>>>> size or zoom on PDFs. You can rotate the display 90 degrees >> >>> > > >>>>>> though >> >>> > > and >> >>> > > >>>>>> that makes the text larger. >> >>> > >> >>> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Mark Volkmann >> >>> > > >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> > > >>>>>>>> The Kindle 2 supports PDF now. I have one and like it a >> lot! >> >>> > >> >>> > > >>>>>>>> -- >> >>> > > >>>>>>>> R. 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