couple thoughts. It seems to me that the mobile market will probably split between 2 camps: iPhone OS and Android. I know Nokia is bigger, but they have a fragmented/incoherent story and their platform just doesn't cut it in comparison. Windows Mobile will probably die (look at the trend). Palm's Web OS is failing so far.
And Apple clearly won't support Java FX Mobile. Google hasn't done a thing with JavaFX. So I don't think it will happen. That's my prediction, hopefully I'm wrong and Google will embrace it. On Jan 15, 4:28 am, Karsten Silz <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > In February last year, Sun released JavaFX Mobile, running on top of > JavaME (though with just one UI component which was rectified in the > later release at JavaOne, I believe). At that time, SonyEriccson and > LG were mentioned as device partners (and they still are considered > that:http://javafx.com/partners/details/device_manufacturers.jsp). I > wrote back then that I was disappointed that no phones were > announced. Tor responded in an episode that Sun can't announce > phones, the vendors have to. > > But where are the phones? I search both manufacturers web sites for > "JavaFX" but couldn't find anything. To the best of my knowledge, > there's no JavaFX Mobile phone out there - or is it? > > Regardless, the competition doesn't sleep: > > - Nokia teamed up with Adobe last February to sponsor Flash apps with > a 10 Mio. fund (http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/News/Adobe-and- > Nokia-Provide-10-Million-Fund-for-Mobile-Flash-Development). Still > the biggest mobile phone vendor in the world, Nokia still has mobile > clout. > > - Adobe announced in October that they'll bring the full Flash Player > 10.1 to Android, Palm Pre, Windows Mobile, Blackberry and even > Symbian, including support for hardware video acceleration and touch / > acceleration support on some platforms (like Android or Windows 7) in > 2010 (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2009/10/flash-101-coming-to- > just-about-every-platform-but-iphone.ars). Even the iPhone will get > some Flash support with the upcoming Flash CS 5 cross-compiling into > native iPhone apps (http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashcs5/ > appsfor_iphone/). > > - RIM announced in November that Adobe authoring tools will be > enhanced for Blackberry development (http://www.blackberrycool.com/ > 2009/11/09/rim-announce-adobe-flash-support-coming-to-blackberry/). > > - From the "they are still around?" department: AT&T wants to use > JavaME competitor BREW to bring apps to "feature phones" (non- > smartphones); > seehttp://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/01/06/att_to_release_android_.... > > - Microsoft hasn't made their mobile move, yet - maybe they do at the > next Mix conference. > > The mobile developer focus and buzz clearly is on the iPhone and other > smartphones (like Android). So that "mythical" installed base of > billions of JavaME-capable phones that could theoretically run JavaFX > Mobile to me isn't that much of an advantage since it'll always be > hard to develop for thousands of different phone models with different > screen sizes, computing power and input mechanisms, running on top of > often buggy JavaME stacks. And the Java store for mobile apps isn't > even in public beta yet, with the desktop Java store still in beta, > and only for the US in that matter. Developers like the powerful and > rather homogeneous iPhone and Android platforms (Blackberry is more of > a mess, I hear, and Windows Mobile is harder still; Symbian is just a > giantic hairball). > > The layoffs at Sun and the uncertainty around the Oracle take-over > probably haven't helped matters, either (though Adobe went through two > 10% layoffs at the end of 2008 and 2009, too). > > If I was Sun then I would build JavaFX Mobile as a stack on top of > smartphone OS, similar to Flash Player 10.1, and forget about these > JavaME phones - developers for the most part don't care about them. > This would be the second re-birth of JavaFX Mobile (it started out in > 2007 as a complete mobile OS, born out of the assets of SavaJe - > seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SavaJe). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
