Apple is essentially saying that no one else can offer a touch interface. I
hope they don't patent the finger as a type of stylus device and how it
replaces the fake pens we have been using for years.

On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Casper Bang <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes, Apple innovates but here's the thing, they are not the only one!
> For 15 years Nokia has been actively pushing cell phone boundaries,
> yet Apple is one of few phone manufactures who do NOT license Nokia's
> own 10 patents regarding GSM etc. These pattens are for battle tested
> technologies and NOT just for trolling/bullying. Look at one of
> Apple's patent claims "undervolting of the CPU to save
> battery" [http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6920574/fulltext.html].
> Really? So Apple invented Ohm's law? Baaah.
>
> This has nothing to do with HTC btw., Apple is obviously deadly scared
> of Google and is going after the low hanging fruit.
>
> /Casper
>
> On Mar 5, 9:51 pm, Robert Casto <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I have to agree that in this case, there are clear innovations that are
> > probably protected by patent. They changed how you interact with a phone.
> If
> > the other carriers want the touch interface, they can try to license it
> from
> > Apple or create their own. The problem though is that the interface is
> > protected by copyright so you can't do something similar. How much
> different
> > do you have to be before you are not in jeopardy of infringing on one of
> the
> > patents? If the touch interface is the best way to interact with a
> computer,
> > then everyone else will go out of business and Apple wins. If there are
> > better ways, then people need to discover them and build them. Innovation
> is
> > great and patents encourage it by protecting the investments needed to
> make
> > the discovery. Patents also discourage innovation by making it difficult
> to
> > impossible to improve upon the state of the art. Does this mean that
> > improvements on the touch interface can only come from Apple because they
> > have the sole rights to it?
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Simon Brocklehurst <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > In the case of the iPhone, I think it's pretty clear there was a lot
> > > of true innovation going on there.  The evidence is overwhelming.. The
> > > mobile phone industry had been going for years before iPhone.  The day
> > > iPhone was announced, it changed that industry in huge ways.  Today,
> > > it's obvious that people have been simply copying Apple's innovation
> > > (and not very well, at that). No reason why Apple doesn't deserve
> > > protection for their genuine innovations if they've patented them.
> >
> > > IMO, this is very different from the kind of "obvious" stuff that get
> > > patents awarded.   So, the competition needs to invent around Apple's
> > > patents.  That's an opportunity to leap-frog ahead of Apple, as
> > > opposed to just copying and playing catch-up.  If the competition has
> > > no compelling ideas about how to get ahead of Apple, and no ability to
> > > execute those ideas, they deserve to go out of business.
> >
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