So It's best to use innovative underhanded legal and political tactics? That's like the best of both worlds right?
- Josh On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Kevin Wright < [email protected]> wrote: > I think the core differences between Apple and Microsoft here are: > > Microsoft never claimed to be a champion of open standards, Apple has > Apple had a publicly stated goal to be the best possible platform for Java > development > > I for one have no objection to the principle of making money, so long as > this isn't done at the cost of other ideals. > What I do object to is making that money by externalising costs (such as > pollution or other environmental damage), or by defeating competition > through FUD, politics and marketing tactics instead of simply having a > superior product, or by promising one thing and delivering another, or by > suppressing "unfavourable" information such as safety reports, medical > trials, etc.. > > The real issue here is not that Apple wants to make money - very few people > don't. The real issues here are that Apple courted Java developers then > jilted us at the altar, that they are pushing a closed-source, expensive, > licensed codec as being open, and that they are now fighting competition in > the mobile space by underhanded legal and political tactics instead of > through innovation and offering a superior product. > > > On 20 May 2010 15:31, Rakesh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> I've been thinking about the recent Apple controversies and have come >> to the conclusion that (in this forum at least) it says more about the >> people buying the products than Apple itself. >> >> So here are some statements about Apple and Steve Jobs, please tell me >> if I am wrong: >> >> 1. Wants to control what you can do with its products. >> 2. Couldn't care less about Java or Java developers (in the large). >> 3. Wants to make money, lots and lots of money using traditional >> capitalist principles (as opposed to that BS Sun was trying to do by >> giving away its software for free). >> >> Now the above could apply to Microsoft too but no one would bat an eyelid. >> >> So why the heated debates? Simple, loads of you have gone out and >> bought Apple products and can't stand that the company behind these >> products does not subscribe to your world view. >> >> If you really have an issue with the way Apple does business - stop >> buying their products. >> >> R >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "The Java Posse" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > Kevin Wright > > mail/google talk: [email protected] > wave: [email protected] > skype: kev.lee.wright > twitter: @thecoda > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
