On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Wildam Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:08, Viktor Klang <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Martin, I think you're confusing "Java" the language with "the Java
> Virtual
> > Machine",
>
> In reality I was talking about both. I know the difference and I know
> that the JVM as even more weight nowadays.
>
>
> > Java as a language has got a ton of legacy and not enough room to evolve
> > when it's basically requiering both source and binary compatibility with
> older code.
>
> And what do you think about C(++) - you could say it has a ton of
> legacy too or evolving too slow. Since VB 4.0 (not the .NET - I mean
> the older version) up to 6.0 there were no significant language
> improvements and despite this it has been used for about 10 years in a
> lot of projects.
> Many years went by between releases of Windows without anybody saying,
> it is dead.
>

I thought there was a global consensus that VB is dead?


>
> I have suffered a lot from problems while using languages that are
> still evolving and I am happy about a little consistency and a
> language that can be considered as stable.
>
>
> > The JVM on the other hand is an amazing piece of tech that allows us to
> run
> > bytecode based software on A LOT of platforms.
>
> Of course the JVM is the base under the Java language that is used as
> a destination platform for many other compilers - and of course we
> don't want yet another runtime.
>
> But I find, that Java is still of interest and there are still people
> learning Java and so people learning C(++) from zero. The Java posse
> does not necessarily need to focus on the core Java when talking about
> the Java language. There is a lot of Java libraries, frameworks and
> components they could talk about.
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