I believe that parrot is actually going to target LLVM: http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/JITRewrite
plus there's all the love it's getting from google's native code plugin, amongst others. (see! not one single joke about joining the choir invisible, despite the temptation...) On 16 June 2010 12:27, Casper Bang <[email protected]> wrote: > Why LLVM and not Parrot? (I admit, while the JVM has gotten far as to > optimization I still consider it too heavy for anything but servers > and the PermGen too unreliable.) > > On Jun 16, 1:12 pm, Kevin Wright <[email protected]> wrote: > > You're right about there not being a golden hammer language, but with > LLVM I > > think we're perhaps getting close to having a golden hammer platform... > (for > > a given definition of "platform") > > > > So it ain't all doom&gloom! > > > > On 16 June 2010 12:05, Carl Jokl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wish VB would die. > > > > > If the job advertisements are anything to go by in the UK there still > > > seem to be quite a few posts going for VB .Net developers. Perhaps you > > > mean classic VB. Office still uses VBA and didn't move that to > > > VB .Net. > > > It VB stuck to being used for what it was designed for then i.e. a COM > > > scripting language it was fine for that but things got ugly when > > > people decided to try and build enterprise grade applications in VB > > > which the language was never designed for. The whole situation with > > > JavaScript reminds me of this too. JavaScript was just supposed to be > > > a glue language for the browser and yet people are pushing it to try > > > and do more complex heavy lifting which it was never designed to do. > > > > > There is no golden hammer programming language. The more I sample > > > different languages and platforms the more clear it is that they all > > > have strengths and weaknesses. I wish I could dismiss .Net as being > > > really bad but some of it is quite well though out. The down side > > > tends to be the political baggage that goes with the platform rather > > > than the technology being really bad. I don't hate C/C++ and maybe the > > > geeky side of me enjoys doing some low level stuff now and > > > again but when I consider how long it would take to build an > > > application of any given size and complexity in C/C++ it is a slow > > > going language to develop in. Sometimes there is no choice but to go > > > native to solve some problems. > > > > > Much as I am not as enthusiastic about Java as I once was that hasn't > > > seemed to push me toward another platform. It is the community that > > > makes me want to stay with Java. I underestimated how valuable/good > > > the Java community is until I lost it. > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "The Java Posse" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > <javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups .com> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > > -- > > Kevin Wright > > > > mail/google talk: [email protected] > > wave: [email protected] > > skype: kev.lee.wright > > twitter: @thecoda > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- Kevin Wright mail/google talk: [email protected] wave: [email protected] skype: kev.lee.wright twitter: @thecoda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
