What about a little patience to see the keynote of JavaOne ? :-)
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 13:10, Kevin Wright <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Anyone for LLVM + VMKit? :P
On 31 August 2010 11:53, Jan Goyvaerts <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'm afraid the opensource hardcore Java developers won't have
an easy time to get rid of oracle:
* JavaFX, Scala or anything requiring the JVM is out - unless
you're running something non-oracle like OpenJDK.
* Your IDE is Eclipse or Intellij. Because jDeveloper and
Netbeans is Oracle's now.
* Your database is not MySQL anymore either.
* Your office package is not OpenOffice anymore.
* Your CI is not Hudson anymore.
Not to mention Oracle and your management don't give a damn
about this debate either. Good luck telling them Java is to be
disposed off because its owner is considered evil now. I'd
like to see that. :-)
I'm afraid the choice is not ours any more.
So... what d'you have ? :-)
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:34, Romain Pelisse
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I would that Java is more in his mid forties, so Java buy
yourself a fancy car (Scala ?), start to play the Guitar
in a band (JavaFX ? :) ), and probably work a little bit
less... !
On 31 August 2010 11:30, Kevin Wright
<[email protected]
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Java is not dead.
Like all good parents, it has sat and patiently raised
its children, and they are now adults themselves.
and also, like most parents with grown-up children,
it's reached retirement age.
So, Java, we salute you, and all you have done in
raising a successful family.
Be proud of your achievements...
and get out there on that golf course to enjoy a less
stressful existence for the remainder of your years!
On 31 August 2010 10:22, Romain Pelisse
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I think that Java is already dead, we simply don't
care about it :)
I mean the last "dead technology" was C or C++ -
people are still using those, the previous one was
probably Cobol, still a lot of people using those
and there is even backport of tools such as JUnit
for Cobol !
Java has been there for so long that it is not
going to disappear like Forte 4GL did overnight
(but you might people using Forte, so even on this
I maybe wrong). Perhaps we have reached a peak and
Java will go slowly down, perhaps not. But Java is
dead statement are plain nonsense.
I think Java is getting older, that for sure. Java
is no longer the language of choice for crazy new
idea or new project. The slow adoption of
Git/Mercurial in the Java world is a good hint to
that (I think). late 2008 and early 2009 most of
major non Java related Open Souce moved to Git or
Mercurial. This shift happened one year later in
the Java world.
Java is like an old person, he doesn't run as he
did in his youth, but he is far from being dead...
On 31 August 2010 10:27, Fabrizio Giudici
<[email protected]
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I've first heard that statement around
2001/2002. It was the first
time I started hearing that Java was dead, and
at the time I got
seriously worried as I focused on Java since
the inception of my
career - at the time, Java was six years old
and it was not surprising
for a technology of that age to have reached
its peak. I seriously
started looking around to discover what could
have been the "next
thing" so I wasn't trapped into a dead end.
Then I learned that it was
just nonsense and I stopped worrying. Of
course, Java will eventually
die and I have to be careful not to be trapped
into a dead end, but I
understood that those statements are not the
proper canary in the coal
mine.
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