Jay, Good list of popular Oracle products, except Hudson is no longer Oracle's. Kohsuke Kawaguchi walked away with Hudson to start his own business InfraDNA, with Sun's blessing.
On Aug 31, 3:53 am, Jan Goyvaerts <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm afraid the opensource hardcore Java developers won't have an easy time > to get rid of oracle: > > * JavaFX, Scala or anything requiring the JVM is out - unless you're running > something non-oracle like OpenJDK. > * Your IDE is Eclipse or Intellij. Because jDeveloper and Netbeans is > Oracle's now. > * Your database is not MySQL anymore either. > * Your office package is not OpenOffice anymore. > * Your CI is not Hudson anymore. > > Not to mention Oracle and your management don't give a damn about this > debate either. Good luck telling them Java is to be disposed off because its > owner is considered evil now. I'd like to see that. :-) > > I'm afraid the choice is not ours any more. > > So... what d'you have ? :-) > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:34, Romain Pelisse <[email protected]> wrote: > > I would that Java is more in his mid forties, so Java buy yourself a fancy > > car (Scala ?), start to play the Guitar in a band (JavaFX ? :) ), and > > probably work a little bit less... ! > > > On 31 August 2010 11:30, Kevin Wright <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Java is not dead. > > >> Like all good parents, it has sat and patiently raised its children, and > >> they are now adults themselves. > >> and also, like most parents with grown-up children, it's reached > >> retirement age. > > >> So, Java, we salute you, and all you have done in raising > >> a successful family. > >> Be proud of your achievements... > >> and get out there on that golf course to enjoy a less stressful existence > >> for the remainder of your years! > > >> On 31 August 2010 10:22, Romain Pelisse <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> I think that Java is already dead, we simply don't care about it :) > > >>> I mean the last "dead technology" was C or C++ - people are still using > >>> those, the previous one was probably Cobol, still a lot of people using > >>> those and there is even backport of tools such as JUnit for Cobol ! > > >>> Java has been there for so long that it is not going to disappear like > >>> Forte 4GL did overnight (but you might people using Forte, so even on > >>> this I > >>> maybe wrong). Perhaps we have reached a peak and Java will go slowly down, > >>> perhaps not. But Java is dead statement are plain nonsense. > > >>> I think Java is getting older, that for sure. Java is no longer the > >>> language of choice for crazy new idea or new project. The slow adoption of > >>> Git/Mercurial in the Java world is a good hint to that (I think). late > >>> 2008 > >>> and early 2009 most of major non Java related Open Souce moved to Git or > >>> Mercurial. This shift happened one year later in the Java world. > > >>> Java is like an old person, he doesn't run as he did in his youth, but he > >>> is far from being dead... > > >>> On 31 August 2010 10:27, Fabrizio Giudici <[email protected] > >>> > wrote: > > >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>>> Hash: SHA1 > > >>>> I've first heard that statement around 2001/2002. It was the first > >>>> time I started hearing that Java was dead, and at the time I got > >>>> seriously worried as I focused on Java since the inception of my > >>>> career - at the time, Java was six years old and it was not surprising > >>>> for a technology of that age to have reached its peak. I seriously > >>>> started looking around to discover what could have been the "next > >>>> thing" so I wasn't trapped into a dead end. Then I learned that it was > >>>> just nonsense and I stopped worrying. Of course, Java will eventually > >>>> die and I have to be careful not to be trapped into a dead end, but I > >>>> understood that those statements are not the proper canary in the coal > >>>> mine. > > >>>> - -- > >>>> Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager > >>>> Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." > >>>> java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici -www.tidalwave.it/people > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >>>> Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > >>>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla -http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > >>>> iEYEARECAAYFAkx8vPsACgkQeDweFqgUGxcWhgCfVGXxijXEnc47FGmlHj3+7oxS > >>>> hlMAniJV5OzoHX2r2aK6x78T4RscTsWL > >>>> =lJR0 > >>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "The Java Posse" group. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > >>>> . > >>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>>http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > >>> -- > >>> Romain PELISSE, > >>> "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will > >>> insist on coming along and trying to put things in it" -- Terry Pratchett > >>>http://belaran.eu/ > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "The Java Posse" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > >>> . > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > >> -- > >> Kevin Wright > > >> mail/google talk: [email protected] > >> wave: [email protected] > >> skype: kev.lee.wright > >> twitter: @thecoda > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "The Java Posse" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > >> . > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > -- > > Romain PELISSE, > > "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will > > insist on coming along and trying to put things in it" -- Terry Pratchett > >http://belaran.eu/ > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "The Java Posse" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. 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