I think the question is...

   "What are your options if the JVM is not a viable option?"

If you are a Java developer of 10+ years which many of us are, it is a big
change. What do we suggest to our employers when Oracle says you need to pay
me $12,000 per CPU to run Java?

That might be an exaggeration, but perhaps not. They charge quite a bit for
the database. If they succeed at forcing Google to license and now everyone
has to start paying to use the JVM and other virtual machines that fall
under their patents, there are going to be major repercussions.

The OpenJDK might be an option and with some work could become a production
ready VM.

So while the ideas tossed around here may land some people in trouble with
lawsuits, it is still a brainstorming session as far as I can tell. Options
are being looked at and weighed. The hope I think is that if the worst
happens, there are other options instead of everyone paying to fuel Elison's
yacht.

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]>wrote:

> This thread started based on the idea that java is no longer an option
> due to the oracle lawsuits, and has evolved into a thread that
> suggests java alternatives that still let you mostly use either your
> java code or at least your java knowledge on other platforms that
> aren't java but quite a lot like it.
>
> Uh... WTF?
>
> The lawsuits are not suing java users. They are suing users of
> something that isn't java but looks rather a lot like it. Following
> the advice in this thread is exactly the wrong thing to do if you're
> worried about the lawsuits.
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