On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 6:19:51 PM UTC+11, Joe Sondow wrote:
>
>
> > Many great foss libraries have come out since the Scala, Groovy and 
> friends 
> > have come out. Given the advantages of these languages surely they should 
>
> > have come out w/ something really big that catches everyones attention. 
> In 
> > terms of the JVM platform i cant see any impact besides the langauges 
> > themselves on the entire ecosystem... 
>
> I think Grails, Gradle, and Griffon have caught a lot of attention. 
> Gradle may still need some work before people trust it as the new 
> great recommendation for build frameworks, but it might get there 
> soon. Grails makes building web apps orders of magnitude easier than 
> some other popular web frameworks like Struts or JSF. Griffon shrinks 
> down Swing code to something more readable and intuitive for a block 
> of GUI code. 
>
>
At most Grails & Griffon by their very nature are only available to Groovy 
users which again means they are qutie small compared to the rest.
 

> Just because a language comes out doesn't mean that's the year when 
> the development community as a whole starts using the language to make 
> their big new open source projects. Adoption of something new takes 
> time. For big important projects a lot of developers like to use a 
> language they already have a few years of experience with.



Of course not, but its been a while for G and S no one is expecting 
immediate germination of great things but still... 

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