2011/3/30 Kevin Wright <[email protected]> > > >> Java has had a long time to build up adoption, then came hibernate and >>> spring which have also been around a while. Groovy was the first of the >>> non-Java JVM languages, so it has a head-start some degree of commercial >>> support (not least, via Spring), so it's unsurprising that it currently has >>> higher adoption. >>> >> >> I shouldn't be surprised any more to see you throw facts that are not just >> completely wrong but not even researched, but it still never ceases to amuse >> me. >> >> Groovy 1.0 was released in >> 2007<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groovy_(programming_language)>and Scala >> 1.0 in 2003/2004<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scala_(programming_language)> >> . >> > > and Gmail was at version 1 in July 2009. Your point? >
My point was to show that you are completely wrong when you claim: "Groovy was the first of the non-Java JVM languages, so it has a head-start some degree of commercial support (not least, via Spring), so it's unsurprising that it currently has higher adoption." Scala came out before Groovy. Way before. Therefore, according to you, Scala should have a much higher adoption than Groovy. >> Ah yes, that's another Litmus test of a struggling technology: citing >> growth instead of actual mindshare. Growth means absolutely nothing since >> it's obviously trivial to grow at a 100% rate when you have 1% mind share. >> > > Please cite a language that achieved mindshare without first having growth. > Obviously, 100% of technologies that succeeded had growth (which was not your claim). Obviously, just because you grow very fast doesn't mean that you will be successful (which is your implied claim), especially when you're growing from a very tiny base. Because all technologies need to achieve growth at some point, it's pretty meaningless to use it as an indicator of success. -- Cédric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
