On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Oscar Hsieh <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just out of my own curiosity, a quick check on wikipedia
>
> Groovy - "James Strachan first talked about the development of Groovy in his
> blog in August 2003. Several versions were released between 2004 and 2006. "
>
> Scala - "The design of Scala started in 2001 ...... Odersky had previously
> worked on Generic Java and javac, Sun's Java compiler.[3] Scala was released
> late 2003 / early 2004 on the Java platform, and on the .NET platform in
> June 2004.[2][3][4] A second version of the language, v2.0, was released in
> March 2006.[2]"
>
> Again, I dont think date matters, but Cedric is right on this one.

You posted stuff I had literally already quoted in here with numbers
that show groovy had releases pre 2007.  That is the only part of
Cedric's claim I find ridiculous.  (If for no other reason than Grails
was in development pre 2007...)

As for comparing it to scala, I really don't care which came first.  I
think everyone agrees that the Java ecosystem was rather close minded
to alternate languages until rather recently.  This thread seems to
indicate that isn't changing much in some people's mind.

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