On Jul 22, 10:33 am, jwd <[email protected]> wrote:
> What a great way for Apple to gauge the real requirement to continue Java
> support on the platform. Now all that is needed is some killer app that
> requires the JVM - written in any language one presumes - to get Steve's
> attention again.

Sorry to say, but this is pretty much what people have been saying
about desktop Java for a good 10 years now

The fact that the most substantial uses of desktop Java have been Java
IDEs (whose appeal is, by definition, to Java developers) doesn't
inspire a lot of confidence.

Google for "killer java app" and (aside from blogs saying there is no
killer java app) the top hits are from about 5 years ago:
     
http://scobleizer.com/2007/03/20/steve-jobs-alert-killer-java-app-for-iphone/
     http://wendong.ngphone.com/another-top-10-java-mobile-killer-apps/
Even though I was still working in desktop Java at that time, I don't
recognize or remember *any* of these apps.

The "we just need a killer app to turn things around" mindset is a
sign of desperation.  Stop waiting for Godot, Mr. Right, and Roxy
Carmichael.  They're not coming.

At any rate, all the action in Java has moved over to Android, whose
app count and user base surely outnumbers desktop Java's by many
orders of magnitude. Swing and SWT have both lost, to android.view.

It could be argued that the point of desktop Java at this time is
largely just to keep NetBeans, IDEA, and Eclipse running. The latter
of which is used to write Android apps. And I think we can all
accurately estimate Apple's interest in investing engineering
resources into helping developers create apps for the Android
platform.

--Chris

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