On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Fabrizio Giudici < [email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:05:02 +0200, Martijn Verburg < > [email protected]> wrote: > > A tough decision and yes a little disappointing, especially since it >> would be very useful to have the JDK itself split up. However, given >> the extra engineering and community effort to have jigsaw fully >> supported by tools and containers, I think it was the right call, and >> at least they let us know over a year out. >> > > Really, I don't know. As Jan said, the impact on the desktop side, for non > industrial projects, is relevant. JavaFX 2 will stay mostly confined to the > range of industrial apps. It's true that this final of the story has been > already written in the past two years, but there could be still room for > doing something. > > Given that, what's now really the meaning of jigsaw? Not useful on the > server side, and I can say that industrial apps aren't affected by 20-30-40 > MB more or less. That's a way of looking at it. I'm more thinking about who will care about Jigsaw's release two years from now. Personally (so this is *my* opinion) I see only two groups of people: the embedded- and the desktop developers. For the former I wonder whether the mainstream hardware won't allow to run a regular jvm by then. For the latter I wonder if that many will still ask for it by then. Yes, JavaFX is able to do many wonderful things. But so is the HTML5/CSS3/JS steamroller. Wonderful enough to be useful anyway. Not to mention what it'll be able to do in another two years. Not that I'm pleased or enthusiastic about HTML5 & co. But I admit having grossly underestimated its momentum, support and consequences Java development. There is almost no reason anymore to develop a (Java) client application. A modern web application looks as cool as a desktop application, runs also full screen, runs also offline, starts much faster and has virtually no system requirements and is easily distributed. It would have been nice to have something light and kicking ass running the next generation JDK8 applet in your browser. But who's still reading this sentence when they read the word "applet" of the previous sentence ? :-) > > > -- > Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager > Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." > [email protected] > http://tidalwave.it - http://fabriziogiudici.it > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscribe@** > googlegroups.com <javaposse%[email protected]>. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** > group/javaposse?hl=en <http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en>. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
