On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:02:53 PM UTC+2, Jan Goyvaerts wrote:
>
> Personally, I dont care any more. I think its too big a job for oracle 
> anyway...
>
>
Jigsaw is not particularly 'big'. Oracle's java budget certainly is big 
enough to cover this if they really want to. It's also not just oracle, 
they can pull in whatever companies and/or people step up to the plate. 
There are many reasons to be 'against' jigsaw, or even just oracle's 
stewardship over it (doing a lousy job, just don't like the design, not a 
priority for the JVM, OSGi fanboy, and many more), but 'too big' seems like 
a strange argument to make.
 

> I once had high hopes about it because it would make desktop applications 
> much faster. And finally make Java applets on par with the performance of 
> flash.
>

Jigsaw would have done this. But that's not relevant, because...
 

>
> Its too late for jigsaw to be useful anymore. If want something flashy, 
> Ill go for html5 & css. If I want modularity, I'll use osgi. Waiting 
> another two years will only make it more so.
>

This was true BEFORE jigsaw was even announced. I'd have eaten both my 
shoes if the existence of jigsaw would have all of a sudden caused a 
massive resurgence in websart or applets. Flash did NOT suffer from this 
issue, nor did silverlight (well, not as much). Flash is basically dead. 
Silverlight is officially dead.
 

>
> Sad really...
>
>
There are many reasons to be sad about jigsaw being delayed, but 'oh boo my 
applets won't start up instantaneously' does not seem to be a particularly 
sensible reason to be.

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