Jax started a poll about Jigsaw: http://jaxenter.com/project-jigsaw-delayed-until-java-9-the-reaction-43719.html
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Jan Goyvaerts <[email protected]>wrote: > Yes, but on the other hand I'm *not* going back to the native languages > any more. I'm staying with the JVM. Whether it's oracle's, ibm's or > anybody's else JVM. > > That's why I'm busy with Scala and Clojure these days. Combining a fast VM > and modern, productive languages. But that's another story. :-) > > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Carl Jokl <[email protected]> wrote: > >> It is frustrating. Enough of these disappointments and setbacks would >> make me tempted to want to work with something else sometimes yet the >> problem remains that the alternatives still have issues. Features get into >> .Net in a timely manner but then developing with that introduces lots of >> political problems. Go to C/C++? It is moving more slowly than Java and not >> very productive. Objective-C? Quirky and showing its age. I don't know, I >> get fed up with the Java leadership promising much and then failing to >> deliver or repeatedly under-delivering on what was promised. However >> moaning about it is not likely to change anything. Oracle isn't going to >> listen. >> >> >> On 18 July 2012 11:39, Moandji Ezana <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Carl Jokl <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Reading the title makes me feel a tad better. I thought for a moment >>>> that Project Jigsaw was being abandoned altogether. This would be a shame >>>> given that I think that it is about more than just JavaFX and as said would >>>> be a step towards cleaning up the platform and being able to drop a lot of >>>> deprecated cruft eventually. This would be good for everyone surely, >>>> client, server and embedded? >>> >>> >>> That would be nice, but if it's only released in 2015, that means >>> adoption will only really begin in 2016-2017 (as it has to be adopted not >>> only by applications, but also by libraries, servers and IDEs). In 5 years, >>> the landscape might have changed enough to make Jigsaw unnecessary. >>> >>> It's also kind of depressing that it would take nearly a decade to roll >>> out something that's supposed to make the platform easier to evolve. >>> >>> Moandji >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Java Posse" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Java Posse" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
