I don't say that I think Java is getting obsolete. But rather that it's getting an increasing reputation of being out of data - in public. Regardless its technical merits.
In some OSS circles Java is even considered dangerous ! Due to all those security exploits. And again, bad PR alone did damage Java. Probably more than the exploits themselves. :-) On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Joseph Ottinger <[email protected]>wrote: > Well, that's fair, but honestly... Java being the "new C" or the "new > COBOL" is a massive win for Java. Momentum is there. It ain't going away. > Even if Java 7 were the last one ever, we'd only have another 20 years[1] > of Java being pretty much the total winner.[2] > > [1] I pulled this number out of a hat. > [2] "total winner" is also pulled out of a hat, but a hat that's much more > likely to be accurate. Let's be real: when .NET thinks it's just as good as > Java, then what it's really saying is that Java kicks butt. ("We kick butt > just as much as the other guy! And he kicks butt! We're Microsoft, and WE > LIKE BUTT!... I mean, uh, kicking it.") > > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:15 AM, Jan Goyvaerts <[email protected]>wrote: > >> My mistake - error in translation. :-) You're right. Popular is not the >> right term in this case. Java *is* popular indeed. >> >> I meant less popular in the sense that people would like it less than >> before. Hence be less appreciated, considered even more the "new C", less >> used, less supported, etc... >> >> And just because of bad PR if you ask me. >> >> But that's all my personal opinion of course... >> >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Joseph Ottinger <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> Of course, Java's becoming less popular is a lot like saying cars are >>> less popular than they were... >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Jan Goyvaerts >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> The third time now, isn't it ? (Plan A/B, plan A/B-bis and now this) >>>> >>>> Maybe they're always postponing because they're only bad at estimating >>>> the effort. Not because they can't make it work. :-) >>>> >>>> But from a PR standpoint, I'm afraid this is not the best thing that >>>> could have happened to Java. It will only make the language even less >>>> popular. Sadly. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Morten A-Gott < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> How many times is this now? >>>>> http://mreinhold.org/blog/secure-the-train >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Java Posse" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Java Posse" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Joseph B. Ottinger >>> http://enigmastation.com >>> *Memento mori.* >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Java Posse" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Java Posse" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > > > -- > Joseph B. Ottinger > http://enigmastation.com > *Memento mori.* > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Java Posse" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Java Posse" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
