Ean, Adam Heath is getting flamed because he has been a jerk. You don't go on these lists demanding features and bashing people because certain features don't work to a community of developers who mostly all work for free! I secretly applauded Marc for flaming Adam because I'm sick and tired of winy-ass developers coming on this list demanding things when they have not contributed anything in return. I work hard on JBoss in my free time, and it is a slap in the face when somebody comes around with this kind of attitude. If you want to have that kind of attitude on this email list, you have to EARN that right and privilege.
Marc is the source of JBoss. He provides its energy and vision. He gives us focus. I can tell you from personal experience that Marc takes care of those who are contributors of jboss and takes care of them well. He breeds loyalty and always gives back what you put into the JBoss community. There are 2 forms of currency here in the JBoss community. Contributions through code, documentation, and/or answering questions on the user-lists/forums. Or paying JBossGroup directly to implement features. Yes, Adam, may be a good developer as you say, but who really cares? I don't. Unless he contributes some of his solid design experience to our community, I personally have no desire to answer one of his questions. Good Day, Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ean > Schuessler > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 9:56 PM > To: marc fleury > Cc: Adam Heath; Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net > Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] time is up, where is adam heath? > > > On Mon, 2001-12-03 at 15:53, marc fleury wrote: > > I seriously doubt you are a developer of anything kid... > > I usually wouldn't credit this kind of bait with a response, but since I > am considering doing business with your organization I suppose that it > is worth exploring. Adam Heath is one of my employees. In addition to a > fairly comprehensive knowledge of Java, C, Perl and every Shell variant > I've ever seen he also has a fairly solid design sense. > > I have asked Adam to Debianize the JBoss system. We use Debian fairly > exclusively for our production environment both for its usability and > its alignment with our philosophical perspective. I'm quite sure that > Debian users at large will find Adam's debs handy. > > While we are discussing being for real I must say that the way you > conduct yourself raises serious issues for me. I have been examining > your partner program and have been trying to decide what is going on > with this JBoss critter you are all cooking up. The code is undeniably > good, but I'm somewhat unclear about the arrangements. There seem to be > a lot of possibilities: > > 1. JBoss, the Open Source project. > 2. JBoss, the training organization. > 3. JBoss, the book publisher. > 4. JBoss, the marketing organization. > 5. JBoss, the loud Frenchman who loves to flame people. > > I'm very interested in being involved with #1 but I don't know how much > I need or want to be involved in #2, #3, #4 or #5. That is what I'm in > the process of figuring out and it doesn't help that #5 insists on > dismissing issues I consider important and belittling my employees. > > Is the JBoss group a non-profit, not-for-profit? Should I regard it as > an Open Source project or a competitor? As I look into committing more > time and money to the JBoss project I am wondering if I am helping Marc > build a consulting company. > > I'm looking for something like the Apache project. A group that produces > a mutually useful infrastructure without disproportionally rewarding one > person in particular. I don't know how many of you have similar > questions or issues and I'm happy to shut up and just use the code. > > For those that are interested here are a few facts about our > organization: > > - We are a little 20 man shop in Dallas, Texas that has been around for > about ten years. > - We routinely execute contracts for Fortune 500 companies. > - We are the longest continuous commercial sponsor of the Debian > project. > - Our employees include the primary architect of the GCJ Java compiler, > who is also on the GCC steering committee. > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Ean Schuessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com > > _______________________________________________ > Jboss-development mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development > _______________________________________________ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
