> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ean Schuessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 10:11 PM
> To: Dain Sundstrom
> Cc: Peter Fagerlund; marc fleury; Adam Heath; Jboss-Development@Lists.
> ""\ \ Sourceforge. Net
> Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] time is up, where is adam heath?
>
>
> On Mon, 2001-12-03 at 21:59, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
> > > - Marc seems to have complete ownership of the domain and, more
> > > importantly, the trademark.
> > > (http://tess.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=3k4bgs.4.1)
> >
> > so
> >
> > > - Marc has retained Larry Rosen, who is also associated
> with the Open
> > > Source Initiative, as an attorney.
> >
> > so
> >
> > > - Beyond the apparently successful training effort there is a
> > > developing
> > > focus on services.
> >
> > I hope so. What is wrong with offering consulting (advice)
> and support from
> > the source?
>
> Well, that is a complex discussion.
Exactly. You have stated some facts. Now what are the implications of
these facts. Enlighten us with your experience with the open source
community.
> What if Linus Torvalds had decided
> to try and start the next SCO instead of giving Linux away? What if
> Brian Behlendorf had tried to be the next Netscape?
Then we wouldn't have Linux or Netscape. What is the point? The source
code for JBoss is distributed under LPGL. At anytime someone could fork the
project and change the name to FunkOSS.
> You will have to excuse me asking these questions. I'm new to this
> effort of yours and I must admit that I have some questions to ask
> before I start slapping $20,000.00 on the barrelhead. I'm
> happy to help
> fund an OpenSource EJB engine. That looks good. But if I'm giving
> start-up capital to a potential competitor then I want some stock!
Come on. You and I know that 20k doesn't go that far.
> All I can see right now is that Marc owns JBoss outright for most
> intents and purposes. The "benevolent dictator" model is a common one,
> but there is something else more complex going on here.
Like what? What are you trying to say without saying it?
> The Perl and
> Apache trademarks are not licensed to partners and Larry Wall doesn't
> keep a VP of business development around.
That is the way they do business. Does JBoss have to play follow the
leader? Did Apache and Larry try this and fail? Is there a reason why this
is a bad idea?
> I'm here to help. I have significant resources. I have a
> responsibility
> to those resources. I'm just asking the questions that I have
> to ask in
> order to move forward.
What questions? Skim your email and count the question marks.
You are performing due diligence. You see things you have not seen before
and they give you a queasy feeling. (right?) So what don't you like? Try to
start a discussion, and ask questions instead of writing vague accusations.
> Also, to save me some trouble, what was Telkel and where did it go?
> --
> _____________________________________________________________________
> Ean Schuessler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com
>
Now that is a good question? :) What happened to Telkel?
-dain
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