I can't release the scripts from the company I work at, but I can point
you to a project I work on that is simply a website put together using
XSL + XML. It uses the same principles in its design and should give you
an overview. Using anon CVS to fetch:

cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/ccaustin login

 
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/ccaustin
co ccaustin

Again, no J2EE but the concepts are there. Basically, it uses a sitemap
in XML as its data source. So, I use XSL to generate a script to
generate HTML using XSL ;) Just apply this concept to generating Ant
scripts of any sort, including module building and deployment,
classpaths for modules based on jar dependencies, etc. 

James

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Jencks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 3:19 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Build System... any ideas
> 
> 
> I've seen similar explanations on the ant list sometimes, but 
> they all go way over my head.  Is there any chance of showing 
> us one of these projects build system to look at in detail?
> 
> thanks
> david jencks
> 
> On 2002.09.20 15:49:51 -0400 James Higginbotham wrote:
> > Not sure what you may want to do with XSL, but we use it for our 
> > product's build system and I use it for a personal project as well. 
> > Its quite powerful, since you have define a modules.xml 
> that has all 
> > the dependencies and let XSL generate the right build targets. It 
> > would offer primary targets for the caller to invoke and would 
> > delegate to the generated script. The main build.xml would 
> determine 
> > if the generated xml is out of date or missing and XSLT the 
> > modules.xml or whatever into the resulting ant script 
> before invoking 
> > the delegated call.
> > 
> > I haven't dove into your buildmagic too much, but a 
> commontargets that 
> > is shared by all modules lets you share common targets, 
> while the XSL 
> > could be done to drive each modules' build script or a master build 
> > script.
> > 
> > I'm sure you guys have a complex build env, but thought I'd 
> throw this 
> > out for you and others that may want to know how we are using XSL + 
> > Ant.
> > 
> > 
> > HTH,
> > James
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jason Dillon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:17 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Build System... any ideas
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Can you find any more info about using xslt or velocity as a
> > > preprocessor to the build files?  I think this might be a 
> > > good idea, but just as you say I can not find any examples of 
> > > it to study.
> > > 
> > > --jason
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:jboss-
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> David Jencks
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 6:43 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Build System... any ideas
> > > > 
> > > > There seems to be an <import> and an <include> and I'm not
> > > completely
> > > sure
> > > > what the difference is or where the include task is.  The
> > > import might
> > > get
> > > > into ant 1.6 and is already part of centipede.  Here's the code 
> > > > for
> > > > import:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-ant/proposal/embed/#dirlis
> > > t
> > > > 
> > > > Most of the build gurus on the ant list seem to like the idea of
> > > > generating build files using xslt or velocity and then 
> running them 
> > > > with plain
> > > ant
> > > > rather than using things like <foreach>.  I haven't seen an
> > > example of
> > > > this yet.
> > > > 
> > > > david jencks
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On 2002.09.19 20:43:43 -0400 Jason Dillon wrote:
> > > > > Where is the include task documented... I didn't find it on 
> > > > > their
> > > > > website.
> > > > >
> > > > > --jason
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:jboss-
> > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > > David Jencks
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 5:27 PM
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Build System... any ideas
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 2002.09.19 19:32:25 -0400 Scott M Stark wrote:
> > > > > > > I still don't buy it. Many of the existing tests
> > > involve several
> > > > > > > functional modules so how do I associate the test with its
> > > > > > > module?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I see your point, many of the "jmx" tests that test
> > > system module
> > > > > > functionality rely on ejbs, etc etc, to provide a sufficient
> > > > > environment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The compilation issue is
> > > > > > > a simple
> > > > > > > by product of having a huge monolithic build file,
> > > and further
> > > > > > > complicated by xdoclet having to be run as a first pass to
> > > > > > > generate the code. I
> > > > > better
> > > > > > > not wake
> > > > > > > up one morning and have the testsuite laying in pieces in 
> > > > > > > CVS
> > > > > without a
> > > > > > > clear
> > > > > > > consensus on this approach.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So are you suggesting that there be, more or less, a build 
> > > > > > file
> > > per
> > > > > > testsuite directory (e.g. org/jboss/test/jmx gets a 
> > > > > > build.xml)?
> > > Then
> > > > > the
> > > > > > testsuite/build.xml calls each of them?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think that would accomplish essentially the same 
> thing I was
> > > > > suggesting
> > > > > > with the generic targets for "run xdoclet in one directory" 
> > > > > > and
> > > "build
> > > > > > jars
> > > > > > from one directory" suggestion.  Smaller build 
> files might be
> > > easier
> > > > > to
> > > > > > understand individually, but might also be significantly 
> > > > > > slower.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The ant 1.5.1 include task might help, we could include the
> > > specific
> > > > > > xdoclet and jar targets from small build files 
> while keeping a
> > > single
> > > > > > global javac task.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > david jencks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > Scott Stark
> > > > > > > Chief Technology Officer
> > > > > > > JBoss Group, LLC
> > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "David Jencks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 4:15 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Build System... any ideas
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 2002.09.19 18:05:46 -0400 Scott M Stark wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Add -Dnojars=true during the run of the single
> > > test and zero
> > > > > > > compilation
> > > > > > > > > time is the result.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Umm, yes, I know about nojars, I wrote it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It doesn't help much if you changed the test and need to
> > > > > recompile,
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > situation I find time consuming.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Add -Djbosstest.nodeploy=true and you can also
> > > avoid having
> > > to
> > > > > > deploy
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > tests
> > > > > > > > > into the server.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Doesn't this require you to copy the appropriate
> > > test jar into
> > > the
> > > > > > > deploy
> > > > > > > > directory?  Are there any deployments that take a
> > > significant
> > > > > amount
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > time?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I routinely run single tests in 10 seconds with these
> > > > > > > > > options. Refactoring
> > > > > > > > > the entire testsuite for a simple usage problems is 
> > > > > > > > > silly.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Having to spend 7 minutes to try a simple change to
> > > a test is
> > > a
> > > > > lot
> > > > > > > > sillier.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Breaking up the huge monolithic build file into 
> > > > > > > > > seperates
> > > test
> > > > > files
> > > > > > > > > would be a good thing.
> > > > > > > > > This is what we had in 2.4 and it was nice when
> > > we had < 200
> > > > > tests.
> > > > > > > Now
> > > > > > > > > as we
> > > > > > > > > approach 1000 its time to revisit this as well.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Agreed, this is a better solution, but also 
> more work.  I
> > > think
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > test/module in the modules is the way to go here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > david jencks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek
> > > > > > > Welcome to geek heaven.
> > > > > > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf
> > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > Jboss-development mailing list 
> > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > 
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek
> > > > > > Welcome to geek heaven.
> > > > > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Jboss-development mailing list 
> > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > 
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek
> > > > > Welcome to geek heaven.
> > > > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Jboss-development mailing list 
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek
> > > > Welcome to geek heaven.
> > > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Jboss-development mailing list 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek
> > > Welcome to geek heaven.
> > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Jboss-development mailing list 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek
> > Welcome to geek heaven.
> > http://thinkgeek.com/sf 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Jboss-development mailing list 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek
> Welcome to geek heaven.
> http://thinkgeek.com/sf 
> _______________________________________________
> Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
> 


-------------------------------------------------------
This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek
Welcome to geek heaven.
http://thinkgeek.com/sf
_______________________________________________
Jboss-development mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development

Reply via email to