> finally they'll have a true OOP language > OOP in this case: Other Orphaned Preprocessor ;-)
bax > julien > > mf> what is the zend engine? > > mf> marcf > >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On >>> Behalf Of julien viet >>> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:27 PM >>> To: Holger Baxmann >>> Subject: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] PHP >>> >>> >>> I thought about it, but that wouldn't solve the case. Direct >>> DB would still be used and slowness would still be there, PHP >>> db functions would be mapped to JDBC. >>> >>> The problem is not PHP, it's the way PHP guys code. >>> >>> Anyway that would be a great project and could attract many >>> developpers onto J2EE platform. >>> >>> There do not exists a PHP specification. Such a project would >>> consist in retro engineering there compiler. In fact I don't >>> know anything about zend and their licence, though project is >>> hosted by apache. >>> >>> Here is the header they use in sourecode : >>> >>> /* >>> >>> +------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---------+ >>> | Zend Engine >>> | >>> >>> +------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---------+ >>> | Copyright (c) 1998-2002 Zend Technologies Ltd. >>> (http://www.zend.com) | >>> >>> +------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---------+ >>> | This source file is subject to version 2.00 of the Zend >>> license, | >>> | that is bundled with this package in the file LICENSE, >>> and is | >>> | available at through the world-wide-web at >>> | >>> | http://www.zend.com/license/2_00.txt. >>> | >>> | If you did not receive a copy of the Zend license and >>> are unable to | >>> | obtain it through the world-wide-web, please send a note >>> to | >>> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] so we can mail you a copy immediately. >>> | >>> >>> +------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---------+ >>> | Authors: Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> | >>> | Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> | >>> >>> +------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---------+ >>> */ >>> >>> >>> >>> HB> anybody thought about integrating php (and this way the >>> HB> cms-whatever-this-is >>> HB> thingy) into the the containers? maybe by calling the >>> zend engine natively? >>> >>> HB> layer rules ... >>> >>> HB> just an idea .. >>> >>> HB> bax >>> >>>>> Von: "Bill Burke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Antworten an: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> Datum: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:34:10 -0500 >>>>> An: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Betreff: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP >>>>> >>>>> IWE. Go Go Julien Viet! >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On >>> Behalf Of >>>>>> Matt Munz >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:16 PM >>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Marc & group, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the details. >>>>>> >>>>>>> We tried to rewrite >>>>>>> the forums (which we did) and it took us for ever due to the >>>>>>> publishing framework getting in the way. >>>>>> >>>>>> My good friend Google just explained "CMS publishing" >>> to me, and I >>>>>> think I understand the issue. It is not PHP vs. J2EE, >>> but Post-Nuke >>>>>> vs. a J2EE-based CMS that apparently DNE. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not the best situation... >>>>>> >>>>>> - Matt >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: marc fleury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:39 PM >>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Bill, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't worry, I'm not going to blast you for not "eating your own >>>>>>> dog food". >>>>>> >>>>>> you should. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> JSP/Servlets/J2EE is better, but PostNuke is a good Content >>>>>>> Management >>>>>>>> System. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This statement, in and of itself, is a rationale for using J2EE >>>>>>> instead of PHP ;) Could you divulge the precise >>>>>>> reason(s) for choosing Post-Nuke? (I can think of many >>> factors that >>>>>>> often outweigh technical superiority -- time, money, >>> expedience, IP >>>>>>> issues... was it one of these?) >>>>>> >>>>>> the real reason is that the APPLICATION IS THERE. We tried to >>>>>> rewrite the forums (which we did) and it took us for ever >>> due to the >>>>>> publishing framework getting in the way. The problem we have is >>>>>> that PostNuke is a bunch of PHP files with direct DB access in it >>>>>> and we are having scalability nightmares. Our machine used to be >>>>>> 15% utilization max (slashdot was 50%) due TO THE CACHES >>> IN JBOSS. >>>>>> And without it, we have 100 people on the website and the >>> machine is >>>>>> pegged. >>>>>> >>>>>> So the application is there so we use it. We need it >>> NOW. Julien >>>>>> viet, who was writing the forums, is now on JBoss payroll >>> and will >>>>>> be working on JNUKE. A straight port of PHP functionality >>> to JBoss. >>>>>> PHP is ugly and functional, my kind of code but at the end of the >>>>>> day it doesn't scale well at all due to all the crap they >>> do. EJB >>>>>> are good things :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Peace, >>>>>> >>>>>> marcf >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This SF.NET email is sponsored by: >>>>>> SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = >>> Something 2 See! >>>>>> http://www.vasoftware.com >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Jboss-development mailing list >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This SF.NET email is sponsored by: >>>>>> SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld >>>>> http://www.vasoftware.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Jboss-development mailing list >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This SF.NET email is sponsored by: >>>>> SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = >>> Something 2 See! >>>>> http://www.vasoftware.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Jboss-development mailing list >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> HB> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> HB> This SF.NET email is sponsored by: >>> HB> SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = >>> Something 2 See! >>> HB> http://www.vasoftware.com >>> HB> _______________________________________________ >>> HB> Jboss-development mailing list >>> HB> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> HB> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> julien mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________ >>> Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en >>> français ! 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