> I don't yet see a compelling benefit that would motivate us to drop
support for OpenJDK 8.  Its support lifetime is almost as long as Java 11.

New language features...
Not stuck on a version released 7 years ago...
Libraries dropping support for it...

I'm now sure how the Java 8 baseline decision was reached, but I was a user
at that time.
We upgraded, it broke, we fixed it, no complaints =/.

Last time this came up I suggested we give extended LTS support in the
version we drop Java 8 or at least extended security fixes.
Instead of 3 months do 6 months or a year... That way enterprises can keep
patched while they decide when to upgrade their Java.

Thanks
Tim

On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 07:51, Richard Bywater <[email protected]> wrote:

> For completeness, Adoptium (previously known as AdoptOpenJDK) also has a
> target of May 2026 and October 2024 for JDK 8 & 11 respectively (which
> isn't surprising as both Red Hat and Adoptium are probably using the same
> binary) - see Support | Adoptium - Open source, prebuilt OpenJDK binaries
> <https://adoptium.net/support.html>.
>
> Richard.
>
> On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 17:49, Mark Waite <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 4:49 PM Oleg Nenashev wrote:
>>
>>> I think we should eventually drop Java 8 support but only when we have
>>> enough Java 11 adoption
>>> What we could do in short term is to deprecate Java 8 and to put
>>> explicit recommendation to switch to Java 11 or 17 preview
>>>
>>
>> An administrative monitor has recommended Java 11 since Jenkins 2.296
>> (weekly) <https://www.jenkins.io/changelog/#v2.296> and Jenkins 2.303.1
>> (LTS) <https://www.jenkins.io/changelog-stable/#v2.303.1>.
>>
>> The Docker image default labels were switched to Java 11 in Jenkins 2.307
>> (weekly) and Jenkins 2.303.1 (LTS).
>>
>>
>>> IMHO we are already in the state when we can announce our intent to drop
>>> support for Java 8, maybe with minimum timeframe of 6/9 months in the
>>> announcement. The actual timeline could be even longer, e.g. 1 year for LTS
>>> best case
>>>
>>>
>> I don't yet see the compelling benefit of dropping Java 8 support.  Red
>> Hat has declared that they will support OpenJDK 8
>> <https://access.redhat.com/articles/1299013> until May 2026 and will
>> support OpenJDK 11 until October 2024.  Amazon Corretto has extended LTS
>> support for Corretto 8
>> <https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2020/08/amazon-corretto-8-11-support-extended/>
>> to May 2026 and Corretto 11 to September 2027.  Oracle will provide Premier
>> Support for Oracle Java 8 SE
>> <https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/java-se-support-roadmap.html>
>> until March 2022 and will provide Premier Support for Oracle Java 11 SE
>> until September 2023.
>>
>> I don't yet see a compelling benefit that would motivate us to drop
>> support for OpenJDK 8.  Its support lifetime is almost as long as Java 11.
>>
>> Mark Waite
>>
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