At 22:27 2000-11-09, you wrote:
> > I see Cocoon as a very good conceptuallization of a "rendering engine" (our
> > screen and printing driver and graphics libraries, if you follow the 
> analogy),
> > and in Cocoon 2 we can have good solutions for having Model/View/Controller
> > webapps. While Cocoon is more oriented to publishing than to webapps, I 
> think
> > they are shifting their views as Cocoon 2 proceeds.
> >
> > Other views on that?
> >
> > N.B. My knowledge of Cocoon 2 is really shallow. I have feelings more than
> > certainties. WRT Turbine, I have looked at the code and I'm following 
> the list
> > since august or september, so I'm more informed.
>
>I think that Cocoon2 will be a step in the right direction regarding webapps
>over Cocoon1, but I'm still not convinced that all of the webapp MVC goals
>have been solved like they have been solved in Turbine.
>
>Given that Stefano has decided to drop off the planet, I'm also not certain of
>the future of Cocoon 2 as well. :-( I understand that any good project can

What do you mean by "has decided to drop off the planet"? I'm not on the 
cocoon list - have I missed something?

>have good people step up and take charge, just like this project, I'm just not
>convinced that Cocoon2's webapp goals are of completely sound design yet.
>
>Turbine has a primary goal of webapp design for nearly 3 years now and I think
>that we have pretty  much gotten most of it worked out...Cocoon2 is still
>learning what the right way to do things is.
>
>So, my advice is to tread lightly and carefully.
>
>-jon
>
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