David, I think that the fact that you saw till you were 15 makes a big
difference, in comparison to someone who has never seen, . Just my opinion.
.
On 12/31/2015 7:56 PM, David Moore wrote:
Hi,
I totally agree with you. The right click is just as important as the
left click. You can do so much with what you are focused on, by right
clicking. I think that the blind should know the sighted way and the
screen reader way. I try to understand as much as possible how a sighted
person would do what I am doing with key commands, because I think it
helps to learn the concepts. I visual things a lot though, because I had
sight until I was 15. Maybe that makes a difference, I don’t know. I
would love to do what you do. Have a great New Year.
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Thursday, December 31, 2015 1:12 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: Are there any NVDA (or WindowEyes) and JAWS "dual users"
or people who've used both here?
Kevin,
Thanks for your input. I just want to hasten to add that my
motivation for "forcing" the occasional use of the mouse buttons is not,
in any way, because I think that any given method is the "right" one,
but sometimes there really is a "best" one.
A number of my clients have expressed utter amazement when I
teach them about the presence of the context menu that pops up anywhere
(pretty much) when you right click on anything that can be operated on
in some way and that this menu restricts you to the actual things you
can do to that actual object. It saves so much menu arrow-through time
(and I'm amazed how many of my clients cling to using arrow-through even
after they know the "you can type the first letter of the function
you're searching for to speed your way down the menu" technique). It
also avoids, almost entirely, the presence of stippled-out options that
cannot be selected at the moment because they do not fit the actual
context of the moment, but must be in a general-purpose full menu anyway.
All of the above having been said, if anyone detects what they
feel is even the slightest whiff of condescension or trying to "force
blind people to do something the sighted way" in my posts or
descriptions of how I tutor, please let me know about this directly, but
kindly. That is absolutely never my intention, but unintentional
paternalism, rudeness, or slights are as bad or worse than intentional
ones. Just realize that any of these are occurring out of ignorance,
not malice.
Brian
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