>>>So Jmol will certainly *not* draw turn/random coil as square.
>>>
>>Miguel, You are right. The idea of having the turn/random coil as
>>square is not a good. A cylindrical shape would be a better
>>representation of the coil.
>
> I agree.

Resolved

>>The standard secondary structure types  are helixes, directional
>>strands, and turns/coils. Hence, I would prefer cartoon models with
>>these shapes. Additionally the H-bonds patterns in a helix can be
>>visualized better in the ribbon type shapes than the cylinder.
>>
> I agree with this, too - one can visualize internal helix components
> (like hbonds) in the twisted ribbon shape, but not the solid cylinder.

Good point.

We will use a twisted ribbon of some sort for 'cartoons'

>>Usually the only directionality of the strands are useful for
>>identifying  beta-sheet(parallel or anti-parallel) formation and
>>domain/motif classifications. It may not be required to add
>>directionality to  the helices. hence my suggestion would be a
>>cylindrical representation of helices without caps.
>>
> I like directionality for helices merely as a visual cue to indicate
> N->C, especially in structures that lack any beta strands (1d66, for
> example).

As a complete novice, I am inclined to think that the arrow heads are
useful. That is why we have 'rockets' instead of 'dynamite'

>>It may be also a good idea of having cylindrical representation as a
>>separate type of structure model named 'cylinder' in addition to the
>>cartoon model.
>>
> I called them Richardson diagrams in an earlier email; I believe the
> correct term is 'topology diagrams'.  (sorry.)  these are commonplace in
> print and use solid cylinders for helices.

OK

> It would be great if Jmol
> supported this visualization.  I can provide examples if necessary...

Yes, a couple of examples (or URLs) of this would be very useful for me.


Miguel



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