Failed with Firefox 3.5.11.  Didn't notice at first.  The page must load 
problems randomly.  The first couple times I tried it loaded the second problem 
without error because the model hadn't been loaded previously.  Once I clicked 
through several problems then quit Firefox and restarted it then it "reliably" 
failed to load them with the usual file access error.

It may not be the case that the page was failing in Firefox going back that far 
in time.  It might very well work ok with previous versions of Java.  I don't 
have a machine with an older version of Java on it to test that.


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Jeff Hansen
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
DePauw University
602 S. College Ave.
Greencastle, IN 46135
[email protected]
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On Jul 27, 2010, at 7:20 AM, Philip Bays wrote:

> Wow.   I find it hard to believe that my Stereochemistry page did not behave 
> properly that long ago.  We are about to leave town so I do not have time to 
> look at this for another week or so.  But it would be interesting to have you 
> test the following URL with an old version of Firefox:
> 
> www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/Stereochemistery.html
> 
> Choose option 3.   The others use the signed applet at the moment.
> 
> If this is the case, then things point to jmol or Java 1.6, I think.  Is it 
> possible to checK a page out with an old version of jmol and an old version 
> of firefox?  Snow Leopard could also be the culprit.  I note that Bob is 
> running 10.5, not 10.6 and that he does not observe the issue.
> 
> All of the Mozilla browsers use the Java Embedding Plugin to enable java 
> applets.  Disabling that kills jmol altogether.  That has not been updated in 
> awhile and I am wondering if that is an issue.   I have written the author 
> but not received a response.
> 
> I have also confirmed the Firfox 4.0b1 throws the jmol.js error, but does 
> load chloropyll, even when it is in Java Cache.  I will continue to watch the 
> beta releases to see when they institute something that kills it.
> 
> Phil
> 
> On Jul 26, 2010, at 9:55 AM, Jeff Hansen wrote:
> 
>> Ok.  I'm not sure this will add any helpful info, but this is what I tested 
>> this morning on Mac OS X 10.6.4 with Firefox 3.6.8 and Java 1.6.0_20.
>> 
>> Went to Java Preferences.app and cleared the cache.  Started up Firefox and 
>> loaded NT1.  Clicked the Load Chlorophyll button.  Worked fine.  Closed 
>> Firefox and reopened it.  Loaded NT1 and clicked the button.  Now 
>> chlorophyll doesn't load (file access error).  Went to Java Preferences and 
>> cleared the cache.  Reloaded NT1.  Still doesn't work.  Closed Firefox, 
>> reopened it, and loaded NT1.  Now it works.  Reloaded NT1, still works.  As 
>> long as I keep the browser open and reload the page or open it in a new tab, 
>> it works.  As soon as I close Firefox and restart it, it doesn't work unless 
>> the cache has first been cleared.  When the chlorophyll is not loading by 
>> the button, it loads from the console as Phil has already noted.  NT3 works 
>> fine in all situations.
>> 
>> I downloaded Firefox 3.6.7, 3.6.6, 3.5.11, 3.5.10, and 3.0.19 and observed 
>> the same behavior with all of them.
>> 
> 
> J. Philip Bays
> Professor of Chemistry
> Department of Chemistry and Physics
> Saint Mary's College
> Notre Dame, IN 46556
> (574) 284-4663
> [email protected]
> 
> 
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