None of my machines have an older version of Java on them.

On Jul 27, 2010, at 7:58 AM, Robert Hanson wrote:

> Phil,
> 
> we just need to have someone with a Mac use their Java Preferences App to set 
> the preference for applets to Java 1.5 and see if it fixes the problem. 
> 
> I think it will. If so, then clearly it IS a Java 1.6 issue.
> 
> I would do it, but I can't get my Mac to set the preference for 1.6! I'm 
> (happily) stuck with 1.5 for some odd reason.
> 
> 
> Bob
> 
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:20 AM, Philip Bays <[email protected]> wrote:
> Wow.   I find it hard to believe that my Stereochemistry page did not behave 
> properly that long ago.  We are about to leave town so I do not have time to 
> look at this for another week or so.  But it would be interesting to have you 
> test the following URL with an old version of Firefox:
> 
> www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/Stereochemistery.html
> 
> Choose option 3.   The others use the signed applet at the moment.
> 
> If this is the case, then things point to jmol or Java 1.6, I think.  Is it 
> possible to checK a page out with an old version of jmol and an old version 
> of firefox?  Snow Leopard could also be the culprit.  I note that Bob is 
> running 10.5, not 10.6 and that he does not observe the issue.
> 
> All of the Mozilla browsers use the Java Embedding Plugin to enable java 
> applets.  Disabling that kills jmol altogether.  That has not been updated in 
> awhile and I am wondering if that is an issue.   I have written the author 
> but not received a response.
> 
> I have also confirmed the Firfox 4.0b1 throws the jmol.js error, but does 
> load chloropyll, even when it is in Java Cache.  I will continue to watch the 
> beta releases to see when they institute something that kills it.
> 
> Phil
> 
> On Jul 26, 2010, at 9:55 AM, Jeff Hansen wrote:
> 
> > Ok.  I'm not sure this will add any helpful info, but this is what I tested 
> > this morning on Mac OS X 10.6.4 with Firefox 3.6.8 and Java 1.6.0_20.
> >
> > Went to Java Preferences.app and cleared the cache.  Started up Firefox and 
> > loaded NT1.  Clicked the Load Chlorophyll button.  Worked fine.  Closed 
> > Firefox and reopened it.  Loaded NT1 and clicked the button.  Now 
> > chlorophyll doesn't load (file access error).  Went to Java Preferences and 
> > cleared the cache.  Reloaded NT1.  Still doesn't work.  Closed Firefox, 
> > reopened it, and loaded NT1.  Now it works.  Reloaded NT1, still works.  As 
> > long as I keep the browser open and reload the page or open it in a new 
> > tab, it works.  As soon as I close Firefox and restart it, it doesn't work 
> > unless the cache has first been cleared.  When the chlorophyll is not 
> > loading by the button, it loads from the console as Phil has already noted. 
> >  NT3 works fine in all situations.
> >
> > I downloaded Firefox 3.6.7, 3.6.6, 3.5.11, 3.5.10, and 3.0.19 and observed 
> > the same behavior with all of them.
> >
> 
> J. Philip Bays
> Professor of Chemistry
> Department of Chemistry and Physics
> Saint Mary's College
> Notre Dame, IN 46556
> (574) 284-4663
> [email protected]
> 
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