Laurent Olszer wrote:

>Laurent wrote:
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>>>Those who chastised Bill for his use of the term "chosen people" are not
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>aware
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>>>of the meaning of these words.  It simply means that God has chosen the
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>jews
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>>>to fulfill the 613 commandments of the Torah, for the benefit of the
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>entire
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>>>mankind.
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>>>In other words jews have the responsibility to follow the law to ensure
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>order
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>>>in the world, whereas non-jews are not obligated.
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>Colin wrote:
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>>and this is where the argument falls flat on it's face. The above is
>>nothing more than an idea, it is not the Truth. If people cannot tell
>>the difference bewteen their ideas and 'Ttruth' there is little hope.
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>>I am sick and tired of reading racist crap from both sides of this
>>argument. the propanganda for ALL SIDES is sick and disgusting.
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>I AM RIGHT I AM RIGHT IAM  RIGHT.
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>Colin,
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>You have an amazing capacity to:
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>1) pass judgment on things you know nothing about:
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and you dear man are very good at only reading what you wish to read. My 
comment has nothing at all to do with whetehr or not I or you are a 
religiuos scholar. it has to do with the the fact the whole idea of God 
and a 'chosen people' is just that-an idea. It is NOT the truth.it is 
merely something written in a book that you and others have chosen to 
believe and to kill over. It is not a fact. The very idea that people 
thru the ages have killed  because of this ridiculous mistake is astounding.

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>One takes one "idea" out of a post  which is flawed (in this case it wasn't,
>but let's assume it was since I make mistakes too) and then one "destroys"
>the whole argument.
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as you have just done thru your  misunderstanding.

>  Actually you
>didn't even say "whole" but it was inferred.
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Let me be more clear. i think your argument  is without foundation. any 
argument based on a an idea of  God's Will is without foundation for the 
reasons already given

>  See my point?
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I see what you are attempting, yes.

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>Since you're sick and tired of this thread,
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I din't  write that I was. i wrote I was sick and tired of reading 
racist crap. The threa ditself is itneresting.

> may I suggest you refrain
>yourself from reading related posts and writing about it and by doing so
>you'll avoid adding fuel to the fire and keeping the thread alive.
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Oh you mean like you do? Re startingg a thread weeks after it was last 
discussed? Ordo you eman you would rather just have your mails accepted 
and agreed with and not challenged?

It baffles me that iotherwise intelligent people can not see the oh so 
obvious flaws in their argument. You CANNOT claim the your authority, or 
that of Israel's, comes from a book which only men, and all of them, 
have decided is the Word of God. This is not fact, just an idea.

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>Laurent

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