Laurent wrote:

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>Colin,
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>You have an amazing capacity to:
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Colin writes:
and it seems to me that you also have an amzing capacity to misnterpret 
what is written to suit your aim.

Laurent wrote:


>>>Those who chastised Bill for his use of the term "chosen people" are not
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>aware
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>>>of the meaning of these words.
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Colin:You assume too much. Having been broguht with religion. I know 
what is emant by 'chosen people', just as you go on to explain.

>>>  It simply means that God has chosen the
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>jews
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>>>to fulfill the 613 commandments of the Torah, for the benefit of the
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>entire
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>>>mankind.
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>>>In other words jews have the responsibility to follow the law to ensure
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>order
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>in the world, whereas non-jews are not obligated.
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Colin: it is this written above that I was referring to as being merely 
an idea. It has no basis in provable fact. it is just a belief, an idea, 
passed down from gen to gen. If you think an idea like this is adequate 
basis for an argument, for  war, for killing, then yes, i firmly believe 
you have no argument that stands up to scrutiny.
what i find most disturbing about such beliefs is that they are held by 
people who ought to know better, given their intelliegence. It then 
seems to me that such people are know this this and are deliberately 
trying to bambozzle, cynically and wickedly in order to gain some 
personal end.
If there is no distiinction bewteen beliefs and ideas and facts, then we 
are well and truly stuffed.

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