[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In a message dated 1/12/01 11:06:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << I can't comment on what Clark meant.  >>
>
> agreed.  i can say though, if i posted the same sentence as clark:
>
> "That Bush believes in the myth of Jesus makes me completely distrust him as
> it
> shows his susceptibility to magical thinking. "
>
> and changed the word jesus to homosexuality,

if he had use the word homesexuality instead the sentence would not make sense. there 
is
no myth of homsexuality to believe in.

> holy hell would have broken out
> on this list.  is it right to judge someone because of their religion any
> more than their sexuality?  is that not what's being done in this sentence?

Soemone's sexuality is not a choice. Someone's beliefs are a choice. And yes, it is 
right
to judge a person on their beliefs.(tho not condemn)

>
>
> deeper issuse of abortion and choice i would think we could never find
> comonality across a group like this.

correct. but as a man especially, but certainly not being the woman who is pregant, it
isn't my business anyway. Like I said, only the pregnant woman has the right to 
decide. No
one else.

>
>
> i am a christian.  i've felt the warmth of god's hands around my heart.  i
> don't think that makes me given to myth, magic, or distrust.

I think you misunderstood and took it personally when it wasn't meant to be. I know you
and your faith and you know me and mine. Faith is very important to us both. I 
wouldn't be
here if God had not intervened. I would think, but cannot be sure, that Clark would 
find
my belief system just as 'magical'.

I understand the thinking that goes along with certain brands of belief and I DO 
distrust
people who hold them. You are NOT one them.(Unless you have been lying to me!!!)

>  and i admire
> dubya's humility to be able to admit he had a drinking problem, go to god
> with it, and beat it.

generally speaking, yes it is admirable in  people if it is genuine.

There is nothing wrong with these discussions, nor any reason to get uptight, unless
people start hurling insults or get patronaising etc.

take care
colin

>
> patrick
> np.  paula cole - carmen

--
bw
colin

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