On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Europus <euro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 22-Jan-10 11:46, Richard D. Worth wrote:
>
>  I just responded on a similar thread and went through some of the
>> advantages
>> I see in a forum:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en/msg/5c1f435be0e3aeab
>>
>
>
> As Octavian noted, all the advantages are for the administrators, none
> of those accrue to the users


As much as they help administators and moderators, I see every single
advantage I listed as holding immense value for every user of the forum.
Plus this value is immediately available to them (though perhaps not
obvious) without them having to do anything.


> and in fact, you'll still find it necessary
> to tell users to take a topic to a different forum - that's just the
> nature of how we humans operate.


As I noted, it no longer is necessary to tell anyone to take a topic to a
different forum (assuming it fits in one of the
forum.jquery.comsub-forums). All that's needed is to move the topic to
the right forum (it's
just one metadata field on the thread), and the thread is not disrupted, and
everyone continues the conversation in it's new home, without people even
needing to be aware that the change took place. The same is true for when
tags are added or removed, the type of a post is changed, or an error in a
message is fixed. This is about reducing signal-to-noise by taking the meta
to a different band entirely.


> So some of your claimed advantages
> (for administrators) aren't really advantages at all, they are wishful
> thinking at its worst.


I'm not sure what you mean by calling them wishful thinking. Every advantage
I listed is a real advantage providing value to thousands of users today.
The fact that much of it is transparent to users doesn't mean they don't
benefit from it.


>
>  I don't mean to start a debate. Each is a different model with different
>> tools and technologies, and each has pros and cons. I was simply
>> responding
>> to a request to detail some advantages we/I see in a web forum over a
>> mailing list.
>>
>
> Okay.
>
> Question stands: how will the forum treat each new post? Will it require
> constantly logging in to receive new notifications?


No, this is what RSS is for.


> Will it require
> staying logged in and squatting to see all new posts?


No.


> Or will it send
> out a notice of each post, regardless of logged-in status?


Pull vs. push. So it will send it out when requested, via RSS.

- Richard

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