On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Jeremy Haile <[email protected]> wrote:

> My problems with AplSec are:
>
> a) Doesn't intuitively mean much (e.g. "Apple Sec? Is this something for
> the iPhone or Macs?")


Don't think "Apple".  It is just a natural inclination of mine to pronounce
something that looks like Aplsec into "Apple Sec".  It has nothing to do
with Apple, and I don't think anyone would mistake it for such, because it
would always be referenced as one word: Aplsec.  Just my opinion though.


> b) Hard to spell when you hear it out loud. (e.g. Most people would
> probably type "apple sec" into google)


Even if they did, I bet google would show our site first ;)

>
> c) Sort of confusingly close to the name TripleSec, also an Apache security
> project - is that bad or good?


I thought about this and I _think_ it is a good thing - The TripleSec team
would likely integrate with JSecurity, forming a nice 'named' layer,
probably.


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> Jeremy
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> On Dec 16, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
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>  Ok.  I think I got it.  Something that makes sense, kinda rolls off the
>> tongue, has good alphabetical ordering, and allows a broad umbrella of
>> functionality, and based off of english words that directly correspond to
>> our feature set:
>>
>> Apache Aplsec
>>
>> Prounounced like "Apple Sec", similar to the pronunciation of the liqueur,
>> Triplesec.  APLlication SECurity.
>>
>> Although Shiro seemed somewhat agreeable, it is kind of a correlation leap
>> to come back to security - no easy tie-in or obvious recognition to
>> application security.
>>
>> There are also NO results for a full US Trademark and Name Search (all
>> fields, either live or dead records).  No products or projects with that
>> name that I can find.
>>
>> Also, I guess one benefit of having a name without the 'J' at the front is
>> that we can (if the project team so chooses) start to support other
>> languages, like ActionScript for Flash/Flex applications, or C# for
>> windows
>> apps, etc.  Just a thought.  It may never come in to play, but hey - I'm
>> brainstorming...
>>
>> Whaddya think?
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Les Hazlewood <[email protected]
>> >wrote:
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>>  On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny <[email protected]
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> This is a part of the incubation process :
>>>> "Make sure that the requested project name does not already exist and
>>>> check www.nameprotect.com to be sure that the name is not already
>>>> trademarked for an existing software product."
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How do we use this service?  Does ASF have a login?  It doesn't appear to
>>> be a free service, but I wouldn't know - it looks very convoluted and not
>>> copacetic to performing ad-hoc searches.
>>>
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