> At 12:08 AM 6/4/2004, Of Don Brady you wrote: > >Personally, I think that IBM would almost immediately fork it (if the > license permitted) and that would be the beginning of the end of Java. >
That makes no sense for IBM. Even if they did include parts of suns java in a proprietary implementation it would still conform to the java spec. Java just has to much mindshare for IBM to abandon. > That's what they did to Apache Axis. Technically thats true. However, they created a proprietary axis that they sell as part of websphere. It still complies with the soap specification and it doesn't even compete with axis in the FOSS arena. For that matter they did the same thing with tomcat and a couple of other projects. Non of these have hurt thier original projects at all, if anything they have brought in more users. This example does not support your above theory. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Don Brady Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 12:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Juglist] Sun to open Java source for real? At 12:08 AM 6/4/2004, you wrote: >http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,2000061733,39149502,00.htm > >Supposedly quoting directly from a high >ranking Sun official... I'm still >not sure I believe it though. > >And then true or not, there's the >question of whether it's a good >idea or not. What do you fellow >Tri-JUG'ers think? I have to admit, >I agree with what Sun was saying >before, to a degree.. if open >sourcing Java leads to compatibility >problems, then we've lost one of >the big advantages of Java. Personally, I think that IBM would almost immediately fork it (if the license permitted) and that would be the beginning of the end of Java. I think that's why IBM wants it open-sourced - so that they can fork it, on the way to a proprietary implementation. That's what they did to Apache Axis. >OTOH, there are already >FOSS Java implementations, >so if Sun opens the source >to the reference implementation, >maybe it wouldn't hurt anything. >I'm assuming they would still >retain control of the brand name, >and presumably anybody wanting >to call their Java implementation >"Java" would have to pass Sun's >compatibility tests, much like >the situation today for >J2EE app servers... > >TTYL, > >Phil R. > >_______________________________________________ >Juglist mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://trijug.org/mailman/listinfo/juglist_trijug.org _______________________________________________ Juglist mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://trijug.org/mailman/listinfo/juglist_trijug.org ** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and its attachments may contain confidential, proprietary, and/or privileged information which is legally protected from disclosure. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and appropriately delete the material from your computer. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Juglist mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://trijug.org/mailman/listinfo/juglist_trijug.org
