Re: OT not-so-Open-Source Re: [Juglist] Returning to coding from leave of absence...

Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:09:10 -0700

I don't know what's up with the new Cloudscape drop Cory was talking about, but IBM is on record as saying that once Derby is out of the incubator at Apache, they plan to base the commercial version on Derby as well... at least that's what they're say here: http://www.adtmag.com/article.asp?id=9834

... and here: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/db2/library/techarticle/dm -0410prial/?ca=dgr-lnxw01IBMrevealsDerby

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Yeah...I've been that too. I can pretty much bet my particular opinion set is unique to myself.... :-P

-Andy

No one on this list doubts it. ;) And agree, BTW that the branding on this has been, well, hard. It's like a riddle... "IBM open sourced Cloudscape, but Cloudscape is not open source. How can that be?" Sigh.

-Rayme.



On Apr 4, 2005, at 12:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


> Cloudscape is the IBM supported version... if you care about
> IBM support, you'd want this version. I believe they're doing it this
> way do they can control what they need to support.

Probably so. That really just makes sense, and it seems to be a
pretty standard model for companies looking to make money from code
which is nominally "free." Release it to the world, let it develop
as open-source, and then occassionally take a snap-shot of the
code, do any clean-up / value-add stuff, and then release it as
a commercial product. Of course the interesting thing is that anybody
could do the exact same thing, even "Bob's Screen Door Repair and
Relational Databases, LLC." So what IBM is really selling in a sense
is their reputation (versus Bob, for example).

Personally, I think that the "lite"ing of open source is really not open source at all. It means
closed communities, seperate forks, its unteniable and results in something more resembling
"shared source". Plus its just damn confusing and makes for bad branding.

Of course this is my personal opinion only.
-Andy


TTYL,


Phil 




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